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[–] brad_troika@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Update from 3 days ago:

The European Commission has accepted our request, and starting from today – Friday March 6 – has added the Open Document Format ODS version of the spreadsheet to be used to provide the feedback.

https://blog.documentfoundation.org/blog/2026/03/05/cra-guidances/

[–] SomeOneWithA_PC@feddit.org 2 points 23 hours ago

wow so cool and you know what that all tops? The fucking download has a .pdf ending, so no one has tested that their wanted file format download even works?!

[–] linule@lemmy.world 59 points 2 days ago (3 children)

These kind of things show how detached politicians are from their actual job. Shouldn’t they be the FIRST to change, given that they’re the ones whose direct job is to protect our sovereignty?

[–] NorskSud@piefed.social 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

They're still mostly on X, including left wing ones.. so.. there's that.

[–] luciferofastora@feddit.org 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

There's a difference between a public communications platform and internal tooling. X-Twitter is a shithole, but still a place many people can be reached, which, in my opinion, is important enough for politicians to justify its continued usage.

But there's no public communications function to using MS Office over Libre Office. If anything, there's a should-be-confidential communications function to it. Exposing that to foreign actors seems reckless even under the most amicable of relations, and what we have now is definitely not the most amicable.

So using X is an unfortunate concession to the Network Effect and its bearing on political public work, but using MS Office (whatever name it goes by these days, I lost track) is a liability.

(That said: get the fuck off of X, people, so our politicians can too. I'd prefer Mastodon, but even bsky is relatively more acceptable than X or Threads. Just go anywhere, please.)

[–] NorskSud@piefed.social 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I see your point, but still, that's no excuse for X, it was never the network of the people, it's used by politicians, reporters and news junkies. Most people never used it. Politicians and reporters are just addicted to it and too lazy to move anywhere else..

[–] luciferofastora@feddit.org 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Most people never used it.

I doubt that's accurate.

I know a bunch of people that did use it and made a point of quitting it. And that's just my bubble of people willing to quit in the first place, never mind all the people that didn't. Hell, there were entire meme communities centered on twitter content. One historian whose blog I read frequently referenced twitter, until he announced that he was moving away. He also lamented that the pricks bullshitting "historical facts" to justify whatever dickery had fewer historians to call them out, now that most had left the platform.

Of course, "most people" is a difficult assertion to measure, but I'm certain there were plenty enough readers on the platform, and I suspect way too many are still on there. Your take seems extremely reductive.

[–] NorskSud@piefed.social 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Twitter always had a fraction of Facebook or Instagram users. It was/is popular with certain niches, more or less popular in certain countries, but not the network to find your family or friends.Β 

Politicians and reporters using it should be ashamed of sharing a platform with Nazis and pedophiles.

[–] luciferofastora@feddit.org 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Twitter is a significantly different medium. Instagram is obviously geared towards pictures and reels rather than microblogs, and Facebook... actually, I concede that I don't know how Facebook works these days.

I do know that I've seen way more people advertise their twitter than their Facebook in my age cohort (20-30). So again, I don't believe that X is quite so devoid of an audience as you suppose. And in that light, I don't think people whose job depends on reaching as many people and demographics as possible should be indiscriminately expected to leave that platform.

However, I do agree they should (also) use a different platform to break up the network effect and facilitate migration for everyone else. Because the audience are the ones I'd shame for choosing to stay. They have no economic or political pressure to. They absolutely should be ashamed of sharing a platform with Nazis and pedophiles.

[–] Quantillion@mstdn.io 1 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

@luciferofastora @NorskSud
Is it such a radical idea that the EU, Parliament + Commission, should have its own Fedi server to base ALL its public discussions & comms on, with easily locatable layers & sub-layers for departments & offices + for nations, regions & municipalities, & even for citizens & the European public?
X, Fb, Insta etc. should all at best be clones/bots, so they wouldn't lose audience but the audience would know where they come from + exactly how/where to contact s/o.

[–] luciferofastora@feddit.org 1 points 14 hours ago

Not at all, I fully agree with you. My argument isn't, that X is the best option, merely that there is a justification for (still) using it. As I said, they also should offer a better option to help people get away from it.

[–] rustydrd@sh.itjust.works 7 points 2 days ago (3 children)

What you're not taking into account is that many politicians are either completely inept at technology, profoundly stupid, or both.

[–] Shyze3D@feddit.nl 3 points 1 day ago

Itβ€˜s not just politicians but also people working in the administration.

[–] Ooops@feddit.org 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

inept [...] stupid, or both.

Strange way to spell corrupt.

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 0 points 1 day ago

This fails Hanlon's.

Or bought by fascists, or maliciously and willingly participate in it.

[–] aproposnix@scribe.disroot.org 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I could not disagree more. This kind of thinking is why the world is messed up. No one wants to make changes, the expect others to make the change for them. We as individuals, acting together as a collective, have to make the changes needed. Politicians are just people who can communicate better than you or I, they don't always know the right path. We have to define that for them.

[–] linule@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

What you’re describing is absolutely not my thinking, I very much agree and in fact bring up myself often that collective action should be the norm. I just see politicians as part of this collective, and within the context of representative democracy where we currently live in, expected to be more aware of political context and meaningful action, because that’s literally their profession. Collective action should exist regardless and if needed β€œhelp” with the shortcomings of incompetent representatives, but in any case it invites to look closely at how well representatives are qualified, and motivated to do their jobs.

[–] aproposnix@scribe.disroot.org 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Ahh, OK. I get you now. Sorry for misreading the intent.

[–] linule@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

No problem, it was not very clear

[–] amio@lemmy.world 37 points 2 days ago (1 children)

And if you're one of those people who think that Office is superior to LibreOffice because of its ribbon interface, the TDF thinks you're wrong and that you only tolerate that layout due to a psychological normalization effect forced by Microsoft.

The UX engineer seems to be in charge of PR too. Not that it's completely wrong, just a fucking hilarious thing to be saying.

[–] XLE@piefed.social 20 points 2 days ago (3 children)

LibreOffice is missing the forest for the trees with this: yes, the ribbon isn't the greatest paradigm, but the open-source suite looks like it hasn't had any visual update at all since 2003.

[–] favoredponcho@lemmy.zip 2 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (1 children)

I honestly think this is the trouble with a lot of open source software, unfortunately. People are used to sleek UIs and switching to something dated or just really different looking that is open source can be jarring, even if it may have all the same features as a paid app.

[–] XLE@piefed.social 2 points 5 hours ago

I just took another quick glance at LibreOffice, and the problem is the whole thing is half-baked to the point where the old UI actually is a problem. The dark mode color contrast is almost white on black, and with a white page it makes the menu items hard to read. Fonts are jagged. And the ribbon - which LibreOffice chose to implement at least a year ago now - shows underlined letters on the menu, but they are not accessible using Alt keyboard shortcuts.

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 day ago

looks like it hasn't had any visual update at all since 2003

You've pointed out another great feature -- no change-for-change's-sake bullshit.

Document editing is a solved UX : except for occasional minor changes, there's no need to fuck with the UI. Compare Tesla fucking with cabin controls in the cars and how the planet is going back to having the fucking knobs in the cars instead of in the design meetings.

[–] atomicbocks@sh.itjust.works 14 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I’m pretty sure a facsimile of the ribbon interface is available in LibreOffice.

[–] XLE@piefed.social 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

There is... It's just really not very good. Last time I checked, it didn't have keyboard shortcuts.

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 day ago

It's just really not very good

So it's a faithful homage to the ribbon mess, then. Yay!

[–] nykula@piefed.social 1 points 1 day ago

Rather than a facsimile, I'd just call the LibreOffice ribbon a distant cousin because they're both office applications. The ribbon does slightly ease the friction of getting people to try LibreOffice, but like with the Windows UI and KDE Plasma, the similarities are surface-level and there are tons of differences. It'd be cool if public education taught people the UI of the commons first, not of the Microsoft defaults.

[–] Enjolras@piefed.europe.pub 15 points 2 days ago

In marketing speak this is called "Eating your own dog food" and is something that the EU definitely should adopt.

[–] krigo666@lemmy.world 12 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Yeah, in Portugal the NP (Portuguese Norm) for documents is ODF, yet all the state uses Micro$lop's Office. Can't wait to have to send them some docs and rubb their noses in it.

[–] Randomgal@lemmy.ca -4 points 1 day ago

Bitch ass software can't even display tables properly. Maybe fix that before taking on facism?