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"BYD also claims to have addressed the well-known issue of lithium iron phosphate cells losing performance in cold temperatures. After the cells were stored for 24 hours at –30 degrees Celsius and therefore completely frozen, charging from 20 to 97 per cent reportedly took just twelve minutes."

As the US sabotages the globe's fossil fuel infrastructure at the behest of Israel, China continues to build the future that will replace it. One by one, the naysayers' objections to EVs melt away. Can't do cold climates, they said - fixed. Can't cope with long journeys, they said - fixed.

As Napoleon once famously observed, 'never interrupt your enemy while they're making a mistake'. China must be thinking that, as the US helps hand it total dominance of the 21st century energy infrastructure.

10–97% in nine minutes: BYD presents second generation of Blade Battery

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[–] pricklypearbear@lemmy.world 30 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (5 children)

Nice. Now the real question is how fast does the battery deteriorate. There is always a balance between speed, capacity, and durability.

Seems like these batteries push more toward the speed and capacity side.

[–] justlemmyin@lemmy.world 22 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

And if you have the time, watch the latest technology connections video. Its long but worth it. Especially if you are from NA.

All the fear mongering about renewables and batteries is insane.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=KtQ9nt2ZeGM

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 9 points 2 weeks ago

The amount of Facebook slop accounts about car batteries catching fire is mental. Petrol of course being famously non-flammable...

[–] Ferrous@lemmy.ml 13 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (3 children)

Seems like these batteries push more toward the speed and capacity side.

Why? What makes you say this? This ~~skepticism~~ accusation seems unfounded.

BYD offers an industry-leading 8 year, 250,000km warranty. They are obviously confident about durability, and the proven durability of the gen1 battery is testament to their engineering prowess. The gen1 batteries are rated for 3000 to 4000 cycles. There's a reason both Tesla and Caterpillar are starting to use BYD (finDreams) batteries.

[–] JPAKx4@piefed.blahaj.zone 14 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

I would not be surprised if BYD is the industry leader and has the best battery technology, I just also wouldn't be surprised if they are doing a showcase of the potential of the batteries if they sacrificed longevity. It is a claim by a company and isn't verified by independent consumers.

Battery technology especially has a long history of performance with big astricks, so it's good to be skeptical, even with industry leaders.

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[–] Zorque@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

Why? What makes you say this? This skepticism seems unfounded

Basic physics knowledge? Why would we disregard that based on the word of a corporation whose entire goal is to convince us to buy their products?

Warranties are a great way to build trust, but it's still based on a promise, not the reality if the physical world. When a resource rich company wants to dominate a market, and push out competition, they will often promise these sorts of things to capture a market.

I won't say that the technology isnt possible, or that they're not providing... but going all in all at once based entirely on promises seems premature. And trying to shut down any potential criticism because of it seems suspect at best.

If you want people to trust in this, maybe engage with them instead of trying to shout them down.

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[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 9 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

This is from improved tech, not from (un)balancing speed, capacity and durability. That idea doesn't hold to improved technology.

[–] zr0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

This is just absolutely wrong lmao

[–] deacon@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Can you say more about this? You seem confident and I’m curious.

[–] zr0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 2 weeks ago

It is quite simple. If you take the exact same technology, then it is some sort of a triangle between quality, speed and capacity. But saying that it always is like that is implying, that there are no technological advancements. Li-Ion, Li-Po, whatever materials you use, the products you use today are way better than 10 years ago.

[–] P00ptart@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Different technology. It's like saying a boat last longer than a plane because it's slower.

[–] pricklypearbear@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago

Its lithium based battery. Not really a different technology. Its more of an improvement on the existing technology.

[–] criticon@lemmy.ca 28 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

One by one, the naysayers' objections to EVs melt away. Can't do cold climates, they said - fixed. Can't cope with long journeys, they said - fixed.

They also said that if everybody installed a charger in their house the grid would collapse, but suddenly there's excess capacity for all those data centers

[–] Jarix@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago

Privately funded capacity. See Microsoft buying a god damned nuclear power plant just to pay for their own data center usage. I hate this timeline

[–] Wander@sh.itjust.works 16 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

This takes a real hit out of the new sodium batteries that CATL are bringing online right now.

So cool that we have two batteries that basically fit all the needed requirements for most applications. Cheap, safe, made from abundant materials, fast charging, long lasting, recyclable, work in the cold.

I get they are not the complete most energy dense batteries you would want to use in your phone or a super high end car where you can brag about having the longest range on the market.

But for renewables and grid storage, for cars for everyday driving or even exceptional once in a year road trips. The problem has been solved with two difference battery techs, it's amazing.

[–] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 11 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

For solar and wind you need to store energy when it's not sunny or windy. You don't care much about energy density for a stationary battery bank. Solar is already the cheapest way the generate energy even when you include the cost of batteries, sodium batteries just make that even cheaper. That's huge massive improvement for the energy grid. And that saves lithium for where you need higher energy density.

Solar filling up large sodium batteries, sodium batteries filling up the lithium batteries in you phone and car. That's the future.

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[–] Hirom@beehaw.org 10 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

The title is editorialized, doesn't reflect the article actual headline.

I'm not saying it's innacurate. I'm saying it's better to provide commentary in a comment, rather than altering the title.

[–] aim_at_me@lemmy.nz 6 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (3 children)

Batteries don’t have ranges? The title is a bit annoying lol.

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[–] OwOarchist@pawb.social 6 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

As the US sabotages the globe’s fossil fuel infrastructure at the behest of Israel

Wait ... so maybe this war is actually based?

Yes! Let's attack every oil-producing country in the world, cause oil prices to skyrocket, and thus cause widespread adoption of EVs and renewable energy. It's the perfect plan!

[–] Hirom@beehaw.org 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

The USA produces lots of fossiel fuel, enough fit its own consomption and then some for export.

It's not obvious, at least to me, that high oil prices would negatively affect (US) oil companies.

[–] OwOarchist@pawb.social 2 points 2 weeks ago

Did I make an exception for the US? Obviously, the Trump regime will attack the US as well.

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[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 5 points 2 weeks ago (6 children)

Claims... Claims... Claims.

Okay.

Not saying they're lying but... You know, Tesla, Elmo Musk, made claims after claims after lie after claim lie after.... And none of it was true. The guy pretty much invented serial lying.

So now when I see these extraordinary claims, I'm juuuuuuust a tiny teensie bit skeptical. I'll believe it when an independent company verifies this, not a single second before

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[–] reksas@sopuli.xyz 5 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

wouldnt sabotaging fossil fuel infrastructure be extremely good thing, considering fossil fuels are making planet less habitable? usa doing it is the last thing i would expect.(an yes, i know they dont do it for the planet) Nice to read these kinds of surprisingly positive news for change.

[–] msage@programming.dev 2 points 2 weeks ago

It will just get more expensive.

What exactly, you might ask?

The answer is

...

yes.

[–] eleitl@lemmy.zip 4 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (4 children)

And if the Hormuz blockage continues China will be unable to manufacture them. Nor deliver them.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 16 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Five_Nations_Railway_Corridor

On May 9, 2023, the first trial run of cargo from Iran to Afghanistan via the Khaf-Herat railway was completed. This shipment included 17 wagons that transferred 655 tons of railway equipment that will be used in the further construction of the rail line. The Khaf-Herat railway is 225 kilometers long, with 140 km of the railway track traversing Afghanistan and the remaining 85 km running through Iran. The construction of the Khaf-Herat railway line, which links Khaf in eastern Iran with Herat in western Afghanistan, began back in 2007.

[–] Carl@hexbear.net 5 points 2 weeks ago

Iran has made exceptions to the blockade for Russia and China, and now India.

[–] ceiphas@piefed.social 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

The earth isnt flat

[–] mech@feddit.org 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Why? It only blocks off the oil producing countries in Arabia, the way from China to the Suez Canal doesn't go through it.

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[–] jaykrown@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago

As the US sabotages the globe's fossil fuel infrastructure

Wait, the US is actually doing something good?

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