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For protection in case some crazy dumbass were to walk around with a gun in the neighborhood, I could feel safer at home. I can feel safer. Already have a PAL.

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[–] HikingVet@lemmy.ca 23 points 1 month ago

I know body armour is restricted to people who need it in a professional capacity in my province.

That said, if you know of someone wandering around with a gun, you call the cops to report on a known location and put as much distance as possible between you and that location, at speed or find cover and don't make yourself a target. Thinking you can be the "good guy with a gun" statistically adds to the body count when cops show up.

Body armour is not something that will protect everything form everything. A deranged shooter can disable you with one shot then casually aim the next.

[–] wildbus8979@sh.itjust.works 18 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children)

Consider therapy.

Also that's agains the rules of a PAL.

[–] PerogiBoi@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 month ago

It's crazy. I was in the hospital as a teen so I'm forever banned from ever obtaining a PAL for target sport but paranoid people who think you can obtain a gun for self defense in Canada can roam around freely fantasizing about using it against other people 🙃

[–] TheJesusaurus@piefed.ca 5 points 1 month ago

What a PAL have to do with this bud? Self defence isn't a valid reason to own a firearm.

Do you have a CO detector? Is not go buy one, you're way more likely to die from that.

Come back once you have that and I'll give you something else to go buy to protect your life.

I bet we never get to bullet proof vest

[–] Smaile@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

not sure we need to get to that level just yet we don't have gunmen just walking around here like in the us, just look up a DIY kit for Level III and that should be enough for a long distance strays or sudden not gun projectiles from accidents or knives and the like while keep things flexible if you use the right recipe and make it properly.

few of my friend have some in they're hunting vests encase they get shot or get clipped for being behind someones sight line past its target, would it stop one of the big rifles rounds, probably not, would it stop it if it went though a tree first at a distance, maybe? it was a big enough maybe that we thought it'd be a good idea.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

A gun protects you from someone breaking into your home with a gun...

Body armor is just to try and ensure you live long enough to use it.

If someone actually broke into your home, you're probably not going to know until they're inside, and unless you live in a mansion, they're gonna find every bedroom quickly, before you have the time to wake up and start strapping body armor on 20% of your body.

If you're talking about a random person walking the streets, not being seen gives you a better chance than even hypothetical full body armor.

Don't get me wrong, I have body armor. And depending what you want I can give advice. As far buying Canadian tho, a lot of "domestic" body armor companies in every country just import from China, put a couple stitches somewhere, and slap a "built in _____" label on it. Often that's all they change and mark the price up 100%. Like, it's just industry standard to lie about that, has been for over a decade.

But what you're saying you need it for, you don't really need it.

[–] T00l_shed@lemmy.world 11 points 1 month ago (1 children)

A gun protects you from someone breaking into your home with a gun...

A gun does no such thing

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world -1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

What protects you from an intruder with a gun then?

Like, I think you mean "protect" like 100% safe.

Nothing is 100% safe in that scenario, obviously that includes having your own gun.

Like, a condom protects you from STDs and unwanted pregancies...

But not 100% of the time.

It's mitigating risk, almost no safety measure we have is 100% effective for anything.

Like, an old gypsy woman says you'll die in a plane crash, so you never board a plane to live forever then a crop duster randomly crashes into your house.

Nothing is safe 100%, and nothing can protect you 100% from anything

[–] T00l_shed@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

If guns mitigated risk, the us would look very different

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago (3 children)

No guns is 100% better. There's no debate shit is better up North.

Unless the government is the one you're afraid of sending masked men with guns into your home...

I hope you guys never have to make the same level of risk assements.

But apparently body armor isn't even legal in Canada to start with, so this is all off topic anyways so I'm just gonna peace out.

[–] T00l_shed@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago
[–] GoodSamaritan@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

It is legal for the most provinces, but most also require a PAL as well.

In my case, I'm not looking to use any gun, just to have the ability do the best practical minimum and protecting my protect my vital organs some.

Like you said, it's not 100%. Ok.

I hopefully never need to wear it. It's more in case if ever an emergency situation. And one less person for police and military enforcement to worry about.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It just doesn't cover as much as people think and really expensive unless you get surplus vests which can be cheap.

Take some first aid classes instead, knowing what to do and having the supplies to help will make you feel better and is more likely to be useful in and out of your home, and for things other than gun violence.

If you own your home, for the price of a new vest you can get an exterior grade door installed on a closet/bathroom/basement and have a super cheap safe room that would work way better at not being shot at all.

But think about the chances of someone being in your home with a gun, and just shooting you a few times only in the vest. As morbid as it is, why would they just stop instead of finish shooting you?

Like, even just jumping out a window and running would be a better option than a vest. If you can't do that because of a family, what is one vest solving? We're back to a safe room being better.

[–] GoodSamaritan@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

This is this best response here!

Thank you for that. Well shared and practical response.

Having a small super safe room does sound ideal!!!

[–] TheJesusaurus@piefed.ca -1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Canadaians own guns you doofus

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

You may not understand any part of the conversation, but you're upset and want people to know both things...

[–] TheJesusaurus@piefed.ca 1 points 1 month ago

I want people to know the truth? Yes