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I mean plenty to criticize about the Iranian Regime.
But let's no pretend that the US attack on Iran was of any help to the people of Iran in seeking their self determination. And Isreal wasn't exactly silent in wanting a war with Iran.
No one is condoning what Israel and the US did, but that is beside the point.
Right now it is about not calling for genocide of anyone.
Fair. It's just hard to say if it is a call for genocide or simply emotional anger at current crimes happening in the moment
All of them?
Pretty sure 99% of those I've heard say "Death to Israel", mean the end of the political entity, not the people.
Then specify.
Since death to israel can mean death to the people, or death to the political entity. If someone is genuine that they're okay with Israel and Israeli civilians existing, then just add 'Death to the Israeli government'
super easy, clears up any confusion or potential dogwhistles.
Yep.
It's not a phrase I use, because of that dangerous ambiguity. [And because that's not necessarily a solution either.]
...Especially considering how psyop'd and terrorised Israelis, especially the Israeli Jewish population, already are. That fire needs less fuel, not more.
Best not fumble our way into exacerbating the danger with accidental crying ourselves wolves, when there are real wolves both among them and against them.
Israel is the state, Israelis are the people. If they said "Death to Israelis" it'd be pretty clear. How come it's not clear the other way around?
On .ml most of those who were saying they don't support genocide are now calling for genocide because of Iran. Stop trying to twist my words.
I twisted nothing.
You're moving the goal posts.
The same people who claimed "Death to Israel" wasn't a call for genocide last week, are now calling for genocide against Israel openly.
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I hope, somehow israel gets absolutely glassed over all this bullshit
did not mention anything of the .ml and other stuff you're adding here:
On .ml most of those who were saying they don’t support genocide are now calling for genocide because of Iran. Stop trying to twist my words.
If you can't say what you mean, you can't mean what you say. ;D I wonder what yet may be revealed of what you mean.
I wonder if you consider that any kind of refutation [to what I said] or retraction [of what you said], to have offered that. Seemed a mite "ego social-dominance"y and gaslighty and misdirectiony and deflectiony. n_n
Well, I guess they have a fairly decent reason now.. maybe if Israel didn't like people saying that, they shouldn't have been dicks? Maybe taken some time away to look in the mirror and have a good hard think about its actions?
So you think glassing a country over is a reasonable reaction to a government being shitty? Are you fucking serious?
Remember when when did Israeli civilians bomb iran?