It's still expensive junk food. I'll eat all that shit, don't get me wrong, but it has to be a sometimes food.
this post was submitted on 23 Feb 2026
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Like, meat from vegans?
Vegans, but especially non-vegans trying to be accommodating to vegans, need to give up on "plant-based meat substitutes". Not because it will never taste as good as "real meat", but because it will never taste as good as existing vegan grilling staples, such as corn, potatoes, yams, veggie kabobs, that sort of thing.
I love the vegan croquettes I buy at the supermarket, even though they might be ultra-processed and I'm not vegan.
The only reason I'm wary of any vegan meat is because I have a terrible soy intolerance. Almost all the stuff at my local grocery store that's 'meatless' is soy based. For a while they carried a brand that was pea protein based, and it was delicious. Sadly, that brand is not in stock anymore.
It may not be in your local grocery store but try seitan. You can make it from vital wheat gluten or even just from wheat flour, if you're willing to use some elbow grease.
There's also Meati (Mushroom), Jack & Annie's (Jackfruit), and Quorn (Mushroom), which are all fantastic.
Last time I looked Quorn mince has egg in it, so be careful with their products.
Ah, you're right, they're only vegetarian unfortunately, not vegan.
I ate a heavy soy based diet for years and it left me with a soy food allergy because of the soy processing.
what do you mean by soy processing?
Those are the same people that eat fast food. Who is really eating ultra processed foods?
Picked up sonme impossible dogs, because hot dogs have a low ceiling. It was good enough for me!
I usually go meatless as opposed to meat substitutes, but it was fun to try these out.
I like the impossible dogs. My only issue with them is that they don't hold together well. The taste and texture are otherwise on point. I've tried other vegan hot dogs and they were absolutely vile.
I also really like the impossible chicken nuggets, though I think fake chicken is something that's already been done well before.
I threw them in my cast iron at high heat and rolled them around. Maybe the sear helped
Tons of people? I don't see why not give them an easy entry point to go vegan. They're already used to hyper palatable foods, providing an alternative that's hyper palatable as well is better than not.
Phrased what I said earlier really horribly. I'm not against vegan meat at all I think they are a really good idea!
Every day I'm eating a cup full of seed oil slop. I'm all for these alternate products like bean or lentil patties but I'd rather make them myself and save money and use olive oil only.
I always wondered why it made me feel ill and it's because it's overused. I actively cut down how much I eat because it's gross anyway. Try eating a mars bar or similar when it's 10% oil. Revolting!
IMHO that's an issue of eating too much fat in general, not seed oil in particular.
Nah I don't eat much fat I'm pretty thin but as soon as I eat a kit kat that's filled with oil and sugar I instantly feel ill.
What makes so confident that it's caused by unhealthy seed oils? There are numerous other ingredients that may cause that, you might have an intolerance/allergy etc. Geneally speaking, olive oil is not healthier than canola. And seed oils are not unhealthy. Especially not if you compare them to animal-based fats.
People have used olive oil for thousands of years, while other people cooked food in water with simple sauces or with clarified butter. There's no reason for this seed oil crap, it's just another filler ingredient that causes inferior taste.
People have smoked for thousands of years but it's still not good for you.
That said, I prefer nut oils. Walnut is high in omega 3s!
So they did with seed oil.
Sunflowers for example are used for oil production for 5000 years (see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunflower_oil).
Canola / rapeseed for 4000 years (see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rapeseed_oil).
That whole story of 'seed oil is bad' is nothing but misinformation.
Not every seed oil is equally healthy. Not every single human will like the taste of every seed oil. Some people may even be allergic or intolerant towards a certain ingredient.
But this all applies to all kinds of fats and basically all kind of food in general.
If you don't like it, that's fine. But there's nothing bad about seed oils in particular.
I'm not afraid of it, just mostly had bad experiences with it.
Fr. I worked at whole foods. I tried it all. Shit is not good.