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[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago) (1 children)

Alternative outcomes:

Gaming bifurcates.

Indies and certain AAs aim for the 'good ending', realize fancy graphics are not only harder to produce, but you're actually just shooting yourself in the foot in terms of potential customers.

AAA on the other hand continues to double down and enshittify, figure out new ways to turn gaming into leasing and renting.

... but, as always, mostly marketing, ad campaigns, paying off "journalists" and "influencers".

3rd potential outcome:

Something akin to lan parties/netcafes/arcades recurs.

Rent out a space, run a local to global network solution and also a miniature rendering farm.

All the actual PCs (or maybe VR headsets) are connected to cheap, thin client local machines that are then networked to the mini rendering farm.

4th potential outcome:

... nobody can actually stop people from emulating or running old, good games. 'Piracy' becomes as normalized in many other parts of the world as it is in Russia currently.

[–] TwilightKiddy@programming.dev 4 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

I grew up in Russia and it's sometimes so mindboggling that people don't know their way around digital piracy. It may sound bad, but I actually think that it's the only thing that can keep the market healthy. I pay for games, movies, books and whatever else there is purely because I like them. And if I don't like the content you made, you are getting no money. If I have to pay for it before judging it's value, what insentive does the producer of the content have to make it actually good?

[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

See I just grew up as poor white trash in the US.

I guess just more technically inclined than much of my fellow white trash?

But yeah, exactly... why pay for something you can get for free, safely, if you know what you are doing?

You do it because you either really, really want to support a particular game or developer, or, as Steam/Valve has been saying for like 20 years now... because the version that you are paying for is actually substantially better, is substantially easier to access.

Basically, if official market prices are so high that the risk and hassle of using a gray or black market is less than the differential between gray/black market price snd official price... you use the gray/black market.

This is a pretty well understood concept in actual, academic economics, but in the US we have an insanely corpo/finance slanted public representstion of what 'economics' even is.

If the fundamental framework of IP laws and market practices is inherently biased against the consumer... obviously, people are going to broadly not like that, and other people are going to just skirt around them...

The main difference between the US and Russia in say, the 90s, is that everyone in the US knew they were destined to become a millionaire (economy doing quite well) where in Russia, things were just generally being gutted and sold for scrap, under the table (economy doing quite bad).

Its the Always Sunny in Philly scene, oh you're new poor, its easy to tell... see, we're old poor, we know how to do this.

I'd say there is a reasonable likelihood that the broad, ongoing economic collapse of living standards for 90% of Americans will lead to a cultural tone shift.

What is the Russian term, schmekalka, something like that?

Basically: Coming up with an improvised solution based on what you already have, as opposed to figuring out how to buy some new thing for the task?

A lot of the US is going to have to think a lot more like that, otherwise they'll just become literal debt slaves.

Like, shit, I still refuse to pay for any fixed location internet plan that charges for datacap, data limits. This is now common and widespread in the US, but is completely bullshit and unjustifiable from an actual 'what does this cost the ISP' perspective.

We largely lost that fight over a decade ago, but I'm still pissed about it.

[–] atro_city@fedia.io 3 points 1 day ago

Will we really have more performant games? Are game companies going to invest in an opensource game engine to pool their talent and make the most performant game engine out their that makes the most performant games?

It's way more likely they'll try and sell us yet another SaaS product or even better, an AI product that guzzles a cubic metre per request.

[–] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 17 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

plays another 2,000 hours of dwarf fortress

[–] debil@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Unironically, yes. Also,ssh nethack@alt.org(or some other server) strongly recommended. My first ascension is still one of my most memorable gaming experiences.

[–] Abrinoxus@thelemmy.club 5 points 1 day ago

Here's my conspiracy theory; as local gen ai is closing in on cloudmodels even on modest gaming hardware they need to phase it out to make subscriptions pay. So they buy more hardware than they need to make local a nonviable way

[–] Tigeroovy@lemmy.ca 19 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I mean, if all new gaming becomes cloud based shit I'm just going to be playing old games on emulators forever, or at least as long as my computer functions. And then when that fails, I'll go back to analog enjoyments.

[–] UndergroundGoblin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I have a harddrive with about 2.7 TB of Ps2 isos. This should be enough for the next 10 years.

[–] Twig@sopuli.xyz 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Just hope the cost of storage is reasonable when you need a replacement/backup

[–] UndergroundGoblin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It's saved in a RAID system so theoretically I can risk one failure and still have a backup. On the other hand, the collection is available as a torrent with an acceptable number of seeders so I should be fine.

[–] Twig@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 day ago

Let's hope! Who knows what catastrophic mess the world will be in by then.

[–] Zink@programming.dev 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

When I think about it, between emulators and various icon collections I have enough games to last me for the rest of my life. And that's a feeling of being free, not trapped.

I also have to do a shout-out for analog enjoyments. Interacting with the natural world and exercising all of your senses are just straight-up good for you.

[–] EddoWagt@feddit.nl 3 points 1 day ago

My steam library alone is enough to last me a decade probably

[–] durably465@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

My view about this shortage is european company won't be able to take back their data from US Cloud.

[–] Taleya@aussie.zone 2 points 22 hours ago

Or a stockpile of ram so they can step back and let china fuck taiwan

But the honest answer is they're coked up monkeys doing stupid shit because $$$

[–] pennomi@lemmy.world 107 points 2 days ago (16 children)

Cloud gaming is effectively impossible due to little things like the speed of light. Sure, you could play Civilization via cloud but good fucking luck with competitive shooters.

[–] Golden@lemmy.blahaj.zone 52 points 2 days ago (4 children)

That and the US being such a large market while having some of the worst internet in the developed world. Last I read only ¼ of the network is fiber 

[–] Valmond@lemmy.dbzer0.com 24 points 2 days ago

I live in France, has fantastic fibre, would still hate to play civilisation "in the cloud".

There is just no incentive to do so IMO. Even a cheap mobile phone can render well enough, and I just hate any kind of even "possible" lag.

/Rant off 😋

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[–] LodeMike@lemmy.today 24 points 2 days ago (2 children)

It's so stupid. It's a solution looking for a problem.

[–] Scrollone@feddit.it 26 points 2 days ago

I'm happy that Google Stadia died.

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[–] 87Six@lemmy.zip 47 points 2 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (9 children)

Secret ending: you keep playing the huge selection of games we already have, endlessly, forgetting games you played a while ago as you restart one you already forgot.

Edit: currently playing Warhammer 40k: Space Marine. So far it's really fun. It's as if you're playing Doom as a more normal guy.

[–] MashedHobbits@lemy.lol 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Real ending: your gpu dies in a year or so and you can no longer play anything ever.

[–] 87Six@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 day ago

Well damn, I hope it doesn't.

Though, if it does, it would be under warranty, and thankfully I'm not in america so my warranty has a chance to actually be useful

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[–] Ilovethebomb@sh.itjust.works 54 points 2 days ago (3 children)

I suspect people will just keep their existing equipment running for as long as possible, and secondhand equipment will be worth almost as much as it was when new.

This won't last forever.

[–] Someonelol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 28 points 2 days ago (3 children)

I've been waiting for GPU prices to come back down to earth since 2019. I really hope you're right in a few more years.

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[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 22 points 2 days ago (2 children)

The first ending has already been happening.

The second ending keeps failing to happen. We've got graveyards full of Cloud Gaming markets. Google Stadia, OnLive, Walmart's cloud service LiquidSky, and various smaller platforms like Vectordash and Bifrost.

[–] BigBananaDealer@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago

stadia people got lucky as they got full refunds on everything after it shut down. what a deal tbh

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[–] Obi@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

SSD prices really pisses me off. I use those for work as an independent and regularly need new ones, and the ones I usually get have gone up like crazy!

I need the other stuff for work too but for now my rig is chugging along so I'm not feeling that yet.

[–] hodgepodgin@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 day ago

devs are not in control of pc optimization, it is their bosses. plus idont think this ai thing is gonna write fast code...

Unless you're really chasing the big name games, you don't need that high powered of a rig anymore. Stylized graphics are better than highly realistic, they hold up better and longer. The most intensive game I have bought is STALKER 2 and even then my rig is holding up fine.

[–] TootSweet@lemmy.world 10 points 2 days ago (3 children)
[–] dustyData@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Google appropriating the concept to rename it after one of their C suits is the most Google shit ever.

[–] maplesaga@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

We need to turn this law into an electron app.

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[–] sudoMakeUser@sh.itjust.works 17 points 2 days ago (8 children)

The other good ending: People learn to disassemble e-waste and reuse stuff instead of throwing them in the trash. Think of all the SSDs, HDDs, and RAM sticks that are thrown out in old laptops and gaming consoles. It would be great to bring more of a reuse, repair, Maguyver, culture back to electronics.

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[–] Simulation6@sopuli.xyz 5 points 1 day ago

If I can’t play games I might have to get into politics to amuse myself. The trick is to get others to foot the bill for your hobby.

[–] te_abstract_art@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Worst ending: Devs continue chasing higher graphical settings, consoles continue to release but at much higher price points to cover these costs. Cloud gaming also becomes much more expensive to afford the infrastructure. Gaming becomes less accessible to everyone except the wealthy.

[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Devs continue chasing higher graphical settings

What, "higher"? The games don't look better, they are just more poorly optimized now.

[–] dustyData@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

"We are now modeling the subsurface scattering of each individual hair. Each hair has a unique texture"

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[–] dustyvagina@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 day ago

They are going to make PC out of reach for common folk and force us to pay a monthly subscription for computing power.

[–] sirico@feddit.uk 13 points 2 days ago

If those Devs could read low level they'd be very upset

[–] Mwa@thelemmy.club 16 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (14 children)

4th ending: The AI bubble bursts,AI companies goes bankrupt and RAM,SSD,Gpu and Consoles plummet to normal prices due to the companies selling their stuff.
5th ending: People move on to used/older PCS and Consoles.
6th Ending: People move on to older/simpler Open source/reverse engineered games that runs on Potato hardware.

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[–] finallymadeanaccount@lemmy.world 18 points 2 days ago (2 children)

3rd ending: Retro gaming makes a massive comeback.

[–] kokoto@lemmy.zip 25 points 2 days ago (1 children)

If this happens, there's a good chance companies like Nintendo and Sony will double down on trying to erase emulation as an option. Anyone developing emulators will be targeted (even moreso than they already are), and ROM sites will be taken down making it harder for the average person to find games. Now is a great time to build up an offline ROM collection ahead of this potentially happening in a few years, even if storage is currently expensive.

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