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“One thing we have really found is a place to feel comfortable being ourselves,” Dean said. Americans are segregating by their politics at a rapid clip, helping fuel the greatest divide between the states in modern history.

One party controls the entire legislature in all but two states. In 28 states, the party in control has a supermajority in at least one legislative chamber — which means the majority party has so many lawmakers that they can override a governor’s veto. Not that that would be necessary in most cases, as only 10 states have governors of different parties than the one that controls the legislature

This can only end badly as conservatives seem to have no problem ruling over land in empty states.

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I feel like I will be forced to move out of my state if they manage to pass the proposed anti-transgender laws. 😔

[-] StringTheory@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago

Move if you must to protect your safety and life. You are a precious valued member of society, and don’t let anyone tell you different.

Thanks. Luckily I work in Massachusetts, which will hopefully continue to be a trans friendly state. So, i am planning to move there when i can.

[-] EthicalAI@beehaw.org 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The problem is that the real divide still is urban vs rural, not state v state. I always lived in red states and am very leftist. There's always strong leftist communities in every red state, even in small cities. Most states are purple.

[-] PostmodernPythia@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago

People know that. But power isn’t divided that way. So when people look to alternatives to federal power, they usually look to the existing political infrastructure of states, not, for instance, less-organized/-powerful counties.

[-] Veraticus@lib.lgbt 0 points 1 year ago

I agree it's not great, but red states are actively persecuting minorities. Why would a minority willingly stay in a red state at this point? And if you're an ally or liberal or whatever and see what's happening clearly, why would you stay and be a part of it?

Polarization is the logical outcome of Republican policies.

[-] millie@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago

Honestly? We should cut them off.

All these red states rely on blue states for their money. They literally couldn't afford to have roads and schools if it wasn't for federal funding paid for by states with healthier economies and more liberal policies (no coincidence).

So let's take their fucking money. They want to drive the country into the dirt? Let them pay their own way and we'll sit in our relatively progressive bubbles until they realize they do, in fact, need us.

[-] Veraticus@lib.lgbt 1 points 1 year ago

100% agreed, not sure why we're subsidizing an entire third world country stapled to America that wants to drag us back to the dark ages and use our own money to do so.

[-] millie@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I've contacted my state level Democratic party representatives! You should too! If enough people bring the idea forward, maybe they'll use it!

[-] RobOplawar@beehaw.org 0 points 1 year ago

This offhand comment that was quoted in the article is really unsettling:

“Here, the tax dollars naturally goes to the citizens, not the immigrants,”

This isn't a conservative vs liberal policy thing, this is more insidious. This person's worldview subconsciously classes "citizens" and "immigrants" as mutually exclusive groups. There's "us, who were here before and belong here", and "them, who came here from somewhere else and shouldn't receive the benefits of our government". It seems like it wasn't long ago that the dominant left-vs-right conversations I observed were mostly discussions about economic and foreign policy where both sides had reasonable points and compromise was possible, but this isn't that. This ideological divide built on religion, xenophobia, nationalism, etc. can't end well.

[-] Senuf@beehaw.org 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It won't. Sometimes it feels like some people have been reading certain dystopian science fiction and alternate history novels and stories as if they were a blueprint instead of a warning.

[-] RobOplawar@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago

At long last, we have created the Torment Nexus from classic sci-fi novel Don't Create The Torment Nexus.

[-] kool_newt@beehaw.org 0 points 1 year ago

Splitting us up is the goal, divide and conquer. It's one thing to hate your queer neighbor, it's so much worse when you can point to another geographic region of "queers coming to harm your children" that military force can be used against. The separation is for two reasons, one is to help hold on to senate power by getting blue voters out to make sure red states don't turn blue or purple, the other I think is to prepare for war and make war more likely, separating the sides. Civil war is hard when everyone is mixed up.

We've seen what "conservatives' do when they have power, they literally owned other humans, chattel slavery. We've seen what the goals of the military industrial complex (arguably the most powerful industry), more war,everywhere. Giving these groups the benefit of the doubt is dumb and will lead to real bad things.

[-] LootGoblin42@beehaw.org 0 points 1 year ago

No one really wants a civil war. People are too comfy for that. Something will shift and people will realize they are being manipulated. The anger will just burn out eventually.

[-] PostmodernPythia@beehaw.org 0 points 1 year ago

Wanting civil war isn’t the question. The question is, what do we do when the right manipulates the system to give itself perpetual, absolute power? Give up? Fight? Leave? Leave and fight? Not many people want civil war because it’s not obvious to them yet that the alternative is worse. Give it time.

[-] Senuf@beehaw.org 0 points 1 year ago

Have you read "Christian Nation", by Frederick C. Rich?

[-] PostmodernPythia@beehaw.org 0 points 1 year ago

Not yet. Which parts of this topic is it relevant to?

[-] Senuf@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Civil war in contemporary USA. And the right manipulating the system to give itself perpetual, absolute power.

It's an interesting alternate history novel.

[-] snowbell@beehaw.org 0 points 1 year ago

It is a real shitty time to be a gun loving transgender anarchist...feels like there is nowhere for me to go.

[-] reric88@beehaw.org 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

This is by no means to compete but to add, I'm an autistic adult and I don't feel welcome anywhere. Living in the bible belt. It's not the same, you have it harder, but even as a cis white dude, I can't find a place.

[-] snowbell@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago

I know the feeling, I'm autistic myself and I've got C-PTSD so I find it extremely difficult to fit in anywhere. It sucks.

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