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[–] Clbull@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

TERF UK is sadly quite accurate.

Bangor University recently deplatformed a Reform MP and banned them from speaking on campus over their party's association with racism and transphobia.

Which would be all well and good if they applied their standards equally. Keir Starmer literally gave an Enoch Powell-like "island of strangers" speech when announcing tougher immigration policies, and openly supported a court ruling which basically denied that trans women were women. The Conservative Party have also been playing a similar game of Simon Says with Nigel Farage and lurching much further to the right. Why aren't Labour and the Tories banned?

I also think that singling out and pissing off a party that is (unfortunately) very likely to win the next general election is a sure-fire way to have your university defunded.

[–] bearboiblake@pawb.social 2 points 21 hours ago

I doubt very much that Reform will win the next election. Class consciousness is rising significantly and Farage is very tied to ruling class interests, and he's also too tightly connected to Trump, whose popularity is absolutely cratering, even among his MAGA fanbase.

My concern at this point is more that the Green party aren't radical enough. My guess is that they'll win, be kind of disappointing, then hand the reigns over to a party much further to the right than Reform.

[–] PonyOfWar@pawb.social 101 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

apparently women specifically, which is kinda strange?

It's specifically a report/recommendation of discussion points on the status of women (and not any kind of law btw), so talking about men would be out of scope.

It means that the EU will adopt the position that trans women should be recognized as women for an upcoming UN session, but it has no immediate effect on the legal status of trans people in Europe.

[–] 1dalm@lemmings.world 52 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Trans men are men.

So they can just get over it.

[–] whaleross@lemmy.world 69 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Trans men will have their squishy feelings ignored like the rest of us men. It is the ultimate acceptance.

[–] OwOarchist@pawb.social 24 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Paying attention to a trans man's feelings would only give them feelings of gender dysphoria.

[–] northface@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 day ago

Oof. I see what you did there, and it hurt.

[–] dandelion@lemmy.blahaj.zone 19 points 1 day ago (2 children)

as already mentioned, it's a policy statement on women in particular, so trans men aren't relevant

hearing that men aren't relevant is part of being a man, sorry for all my trans men brothers, that's what being a man can be like sometimes

[–] 1dalm@lemmings.world 31 points 1 day ago (6 children)

"Men aren't relevant".

@whaleross@lemmy.world is right. It is the ultimate acceptance.

Welcome to the club, boys. Now you are on your own. Enjoy the privileged life!

[–] Skua@kbin.earth 19 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I dunno about you, but as a man I really don't see why I should be upset about not being in a document about women. Not every conversation has to be about me.

[–] whaleross@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

At least from me, it was just a quip on the previous poster about trans men not being mentioned.

But then again, my impression is also that for a lot of trans men, this has been a shocking true experience.

So my quip has a sympathetic undertone for any trans men feeling excluded. Take it as acceptance, my guys! Hugs to you all!

[–] Skua@kbin.earth 1 points 1 day ago

1dalm has said the same now, so it seems you were the one to read it correctly in the first place. Such is the difficulty of communication by text!

[–] dandelion@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

yeah, I'm feeling a bit clueless as to why this is feeling like such an injury to men ...

unhelpful rantand as an aside, do they not realize how much their feelings and desires as men are centered in society all the time, as a default?

the world has been built for them with rarely a thought to the contrary e.g.

  • women haven't been included in clinical trials, and women end up in the hospital at much higher rates than men because of drug complications as a result
  • crash testing is mostly modeled on men and this results in greater rates of injuries and fatalities for women in car accidents
  • phone sizes are sized based around male hands sizes making them too large for women
  • the thermostats in public are set to temperatures more comfortable for men than women
  • CPR dummies are only ever male and CPR training on female bodies is not common, resulting in increased deaths because people don't feel comfortable performing CPR on women (either due to sexualization of women and modesty norms, or lack of confidence from not training on a female body).
  • the number of bathroom stalls is based on men's needs, resulting in long waiting lines to use the women's room

Even the idea of women being in public has been a rather recent change in the West, only in the past couple centuries, and at first women always had to be kept in segregated spaces away from men - they had to ride in their own train cars, use their own library rooms, etc.

Women in the US only recently managed to own their own property, secure their own lines of credit, have their own bank accounts, etc. - the only thing like this applied to men has been slavery, but even that was applied to men and women, not men exclusively.

Advancement for women does not diminish men, and it's so weird to see such sensitivity and fear from the elevation of women from sub-human status to closer-to-equal status.

That said, obviously patriarchy informs toxic gender norms that tell men that they shouldn't express or have feelings, and those norms are reinforced by both men and women - but the problem is still the patriarchy, not the elevation of women or the movement for gender equality (i.e. feminism).

[–] rumschlumpel@feddit.org 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

The issue with this is the men society is catering to are some sort of patriachial male ideal, which is very toxic and unhealthy for many real-world men. So no, society doesn't really cater to the feelings of men.

Though that doesn't really matter for the stuff you mentioned that's just about male biology. And obviously this isn't really the place to bring up men in the first place.

[–] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 16 points 1 day ago (1 children)

"Hello, I'm here for the patriarchy. I was told I would have privileges. When can I expect my salary?"

[–] 1dalm@lemmings.world 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

"Yes, HR, I need to file a complaint. I'm told by all the women here that I'm supposed to be making more than them but that doesn't actually seem to be the case. Will you please look into addressing that discrepancy?"

"Also, I'm ready for my lunch now, so please send a maid. I did not receive my coffee this morning as expected, which I was told would be a part of my male privilege. Do you even view me as a man?"

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[–] Formfiller@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago (7 children)

To a lot of transphobes, all trans people are men, even though they probably won't state it this clearly. It's the idea under e. g. the FIDE rulings.

[–] Noelle_Leone@lemmy.world 2 points 22 hours ago

Trans men got recognised too, don't worry, the recognition stated trans people, in general.

[–] DmMacniel@feddit.org 11 points 1 day ago

Of course not. Trans men are men not women :)

[–] Skua@kbin.earth 32 points 1 day ago

It's a document about women, not about trans people, so trans men just weren't covered. The line about trans women is a single very short clause to make sure they're included in all the other stuff

[–] gwl@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

TERFs conveniently forget they exist cause they don't fit their narrative

[–] Tonava@sopuli.xyz 3 points 1 day ago (2 children)

At least some terfs think transmen are sort of misguided superlesbians that have been brainwashed by patriarchy or some shit

[–] birdwing@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

That's not any better, they still don't recognise them as men either.

[–] Tonava@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 day ago

Oh yeah I was going for "I know some of them think like this" and not "hey at least they think this way". That attitude could be even worse than just being ignored

[–] gwl@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 day ago (2 children)

It's true, but the majority just conveniently "forget" they exist though

[–] coolfission@lemmy.world 1 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

To me most trans men who have fully transitioned (after T) are pretty much indistinguishable from cis men. Their looks and voice sound just like a cis man. While for many trans women, some things still come off like their voice and body shape even after HRT and surgery compared to cis women.

[–] gwl@lemmy.blahaj.zone -1 points 22 hours ago

Okay, nobody asked

[–] Emopunker@feddit.org 0 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Do not abuse the report system for your personal beef. This is a warning.

[–] gwl@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 17 hours ago

other person says a wild generalisation about trans mascs and trans femmes, one which repeats harmful stereotypes

I say nobody asked

I get told off for reporting it

[–] IronBird@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

first lesson to being a man is learning noone cares about you

(cries internally)

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they never criticize or degrade trans men unlike trans women.

[–] birdwing@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 points 1 day ago

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