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[–] starik@lemmy.zip 8 points 2 months ago

That looks more like spider punk

[–] frightful_hobgoblin@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 months ago (6 children)

Why not just say you're against solarpunk? Why try to twist solarpunk to be something it's not?

Have you forgotten all about me:

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[–] Dippy@beehaw.org 1 points 2 months ago (23 children)

Solarpunk is the fiction, the ideal. What China is doing in this regard is 1 version of an attempt to achieve it, and that's great! Its not the only path forward and there is room for critique of every attempt.

As an anarchist, I would like less authoritarianism actually. But, as a solarpunk enthusiast and environmentalist, im in favor of this action by China. I believe that actions towards solarpunk and actions against government systems i dont like should be handled separately

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[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Solar punk or solar authoritarianism?

Solar punk is "real" as in, plenty people living off grid on solar, catchment, whatever. China does seem to be making whatever theyre doing become a thing. And its great. Cheap energy probably the most effective path to world peace. If we can get the price to "effectively 0" we can solve just about everything.

[–] techpeakedin1991@lemmy.ml 9 points 2 months ago (1 children)

How would you produce solar panels when living "off grid"? You need a large, integrated economy to be able to produce such complicated hardware. This is why solar punk is fundamentally an elitist ideology. You look down your nose on "authoritarians", and have a holier-than-thou attitude toward them, but the society you envision is impossible without them.

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[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

What distinguishes "punk" from "authoritarian?" Is it not punk to radically "abolish the present state of things," as Marx says, and which the PRC is steadfastly working towards? What makes the PRC "authoritarian" in a way that makes it unacceptable?

I'm also unconvinced that energy prices at effectively 0 will solve everything either, class struggle remains, and we will all have to follow in the footsteps of countries like China in overthrowing the bourgeoisie, as they did in 1949.

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