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Intensive care nurses immediately doubted the word of federal immigration officers when they arrived at a Minneapolis hospital with a Mexican immigrant who had broken bones in his face and skull.

Immigration and Customs Enforcement agents initially claimed Alberto Castañeda Mondragón had tried to flee while handcuffed and “purposefully ran headfirst into a brick wall,” according to court documents filed by a lawyer seeking his release.

But staff members at Hennepin County Medical Center determined that could not possibly account for the fractures and bleeding throughout the 31-year-old’s brain, said three nurses familiar with the case.

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[–] kevin2107@lemmy.world 6 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Reddit is actively blocking this kind of talk fuck that nazi site

[–] how_we_burned@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 hour ago

Look i just left reddit because I'm deeply unhappy with their bullshit moderation / AI system (banning people for criticising MAGA morons) but dude this is not being deleted

/r/TwinCities

https://www.reddit.com/r/TwinCities/s/JmNTgnMmkL

And in /r/politics

https://www.reddit.com/r/politics/s/OPH4TcmXj0

[–] minorkeys@lemmy.world 4 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

These people are too stupid and distrusting of science to understand that medicine and forensics can very much know atleast some of what didn't happen and did happen based on the injuries sustained and know that you're lying, and what you likely did to the person.

[–] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 3 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

Copaganda: we will use science to figure out what happened!

Reality: I get to say what happened. Fuck you if you dont like it! What are you gonna do about it? If you reply I get to crack your skull.

[–] Stern@lemmy.world 7 points 5 hours ago

"His head just did that" yeah sure ok

[–] Sambalbij@feddit.nl 4 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah right, and Alex Pretti just fell onto those bullets....

[–] hector@lemmy.today 4 points 4 hours ago

And ms good was trying to run down agents. /s

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 23 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Doubt of anything ICE and DOJ says should be the default starting position.

They have shown themselves to constantly lie about all kinds of things and never apologize for any of their lies. They are simply not credible.

[–] aesthelete@lemmy.world 7 points 14 hours ago

As always, me to DHS:

I don't believe you

[–] aesthelete@lemmy.world 17 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

This sounds like an explanation the Russian government would give. Looks like those dumb assholes in the I'd rather be Russian than a Democrat shirts got their fucking way.

[–] EvilBit@lemmy.world 25 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Shouldn’t the agents who brought him in be treated as suspects in an attempted murder case? They should be detained and questioned and charged with obstruction of justice if they don’t comply. That’s what would happen to literally anyone not wearing that uniform who walks into a hospital with a person with life-threatening injuries that appear to be inflicted maliciously.

[–] FreshParsnip@lemmy.ca 10 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

In a fair and just world, yes

[–] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 2 points 4 hours ago

a fair and just world

Fantasy today, reality tomorrow. Much like science fiction. An ideal.

[–] Manjushri@piefed.social 93 points 22 hours ago (4 children)

AP shared the details of Castañeda Mondragón’s injuries with Dr. Lindsey C. Thomas, a board-certified forensic pathologist who worked as a medical examiner in Minnesota for more than 30 years. She agreed with the assessment of hospital staff.

“I am pretty sure a person could not get these kinds of extensive injuries from running into a wall,” Thomas said, adding that she would need to see the CT scans to make a more definitive finding.

“I almost think one doesn’t have to be a physician to conclude that a person can’t get skull fractures on both the right and left sides of their head and from front to back by running themselves into a wall,” she said.

So was the ICE agent dumb enough to think this was a believable story or did they just not give a fuck if anyone believed it or not? It could really go either way.

The nurses interviewed by AP said they felt intimidated by ICE’s presence in the critical care unit and had even been told to avoid a certain bathroom to minimize encounters with officers. They said staff members are using an encrypted messaging app to compare notes and share information out of fear that the government might be monitoring their communications.

Welcome to Trump's AmeriKKKa.

[–] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 1 points 4 hours ago

Sir, this is the United States of America.

[–] hector@lemmy.today 0 points 4 hours ago

No notes, other than this is not amerikkka more than it has been. This is nazi.

[–] Typhoon@lemmy.ca 31 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

or did they just not give a fuck if anyone believed it or not?

We have literal footage from multiple angles of ICE agents murdering people and the government is protecting them. The agents don't give a fuck. They've been given permission to kill anyone they want and nothing will happen.

[–] hector@lemmy.today 1 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

With the blue State officials declining to press charges and therefore aceding the 10th amendment. The cunts. I fucking told you.

[–] nocturne@slrpnk.net 25 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

So was the ICE agent dumb enough to think this was a believable story

It is probably the same story he gives when his wife/gf ends up in the ER for similar injuries.

[–] jaybone@lemmy.zip 9 points 19 hours ago

He is both dumb enough, and he doesn’t give a fuck. Both can be true.

[–] MBech@feddit.dk 83 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago) (27 children)

So attempted murder? Or did he die and it was just regular murder?

Edit. Seems this incident happened Jan 8. Where's the outrage? Do people just not give half a shit unless the victim is white?

[–] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 2 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

I think the giving the shit is when white males die.

Minorities get the Three-fifths Give a Shit Compromise. White females sometimes get a bonus point 1/5th.

Unfortunately Rene Good was not heterosexual, and forfitited her bonus point.

[–] usualsuspect191@lemmy.ca 70 points 22 hours ago

Race is probably a component, but a big one is video of the incident getting to the public. Watching an unambiguous violation instead of reading an account is far more powerful, and removes all doubt of witness reliability.

[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 16 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Can we stop with the ragebait? The incredibly, over the top obvious difference in outrage between cases is whether it's on video or not. Why the fuck do people keep pushing this angle? Why are you pretending like video evidence doesn't matter? It's fucking weird, at best.

[–] foggy@lemmy.world 4 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

I'm pretty convinced that Lemmy's politics board is thoroughly compromised. Constant deluge of posters intent on spreading a sense of doom and fear.

I tag them and never see them again.

[–] curious_dolphin@slrpnk.net 1 points 4 hours ago

I tag them

Do you mean you block them or is there actually some way to tag users that I don't know about?

[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 2 points 14 hours ago

I'm starting to think this also. Literally every day I see some dipshit claiming that no one cared about ICE until it was a white person (they say that about both of the recent cases). Literally have never gotten one response (from the person claiming it's only a race thing) to my replies saying it's because these killings were on video. It's fucking bizarre.

[–] hardcoreufo@lemmy.world 12 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Is everyone who says "people only care because they are white" forget about George Floyd? Pretty sure there were very large, nationwide protests for that.

[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 7 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

No they didn't forget. They're lying intentionally would be my guess. Anyone old enough to comment on politics right now ought to remember George Floyd.

[–] ChunkMcHorkle@lemmy.world 6 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

Oh yeah. And then some. Back around the beginning of the month I got into it with someone here who was trying to play like they live in Minneapolis and know all about the city while they were putting out similar ragebait, except they had no idea, literally none, where George Floyd was killed. Oh, and the "American" genius who was holding forth on all the things the US Constitution says that are not actually in there while having multiple English lapses. That was some shit.

I should add that when I see this, I never offer the specific correction because I want other pretenders like them to fall into the same trap. So I pick around it to let them flounder in their obvious errors because I know anyone paying attention will see it for themselves, and I'd suggest that to others as well: point it out without actually correcting it. Highlight it, quote it, ask about it and all around it, but don't call it wrong and don't correct it, so that they can't use your input to better their game.

To be clear, if someone's not American and you have a bone to pick with the US, so what. Join the club.

But if you're pretending to be American, actively lying about where you are so you can try to manipulate, discourage and get people to give up, then you can fuck yourself sideways with a rusty chainsaw and I absolutely will jam a stick in your spokes when I see it.

EDITED to clarify

[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 5 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

I really want a reply from you. Explain why it somehow doesn't matter that the killings drawing the most ire are on video. Explain it you coward.

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[–] feddylemmy@lemmy.world 13 points 18 hours ago

There was no clear video like the other incident. Get out of here with that race baiting bullshit. Straight out of the opposition play book - attempt to divide.

[–] Mouselemming@sh.itjust.works 20 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

HIPAA laws would have prevented hospital personnel from speaking publicly about this, and of course ICE was hushing it up, seems like his friends broke the story after he was out.

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[–] jaybone@lemmy.zip 12 points 19 hours ago

nottheonion

[–] voracitude@lemmy.world 26 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Immediately doubting the word of ICE goons is a solid strategy, no matter the circumstances.

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[–] altphoto@lemmy.today 1 points 11 hours ago

Broken skull, not murdered. A sort of thin difference.

[–] justsomeguy@lemmy.world 17 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

To be fair if you're an ICE goon running headfirst into a wall might be a common activity for you so it seemed like a plausible story to come up with.

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[–] aramis87@fedia.io 12 points 22 hours ago

one doesn’t have to be a physician to conclude that a person can’t get skull fractures on both the right and left sides of their head and from front to back by running themselves into a wall

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