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25 EVs Were Range-Tested In Extreme Cold. It Didn’t Go Well (insideevs.com)

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[–] pageflight@lemmy.world 5 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

Clickbait title, but here's the cold weather range reduction, ordered best to worst (why wouldn't they sort it that way already?).

Model WLTP range - miles (km) Real-world range - miles (km) Difference MG 6S 301 (485) 214 (345) -29% Hyundai Inster 223 (360) 159 (256) -29% MG IM6 313 (505) 218 (352) -30% KGM Musso 235 (379) 163 (263) -31% Voyah Courage 273 (440) 186 (300) -32% Kia EV4 369 (594) 242 (390) -34% Changan Deepal S05 276 (445) 182 (293) -34% Xpeng X9 348 (560) 224 (361) -36% Mazda 6e 343 (552) 216 (348) -37% Smart #5 335 (540) 212 (342) -37% Audi A6 E-Tron 405 (653) 250 (402) -38% Hyundai Ioniq 9 372 (600) 230 (370) -38% Zeekr 7X 336 (541) 210 (338) -38% Volkswagen ID. Buzz 279 (449 km) 141 (227 km) -38% BMW iX 398 (641) 241 (388) -39% Ford Capri 348 (560) 210 (339) -39% Volvo ES90 387 (624) 231 (373) -40% Tesla Model Y 372 (600) 223 (359) -40% Mercedes-Benz CLA 440 (709) 261 (421) -41% Skoda Elroq 325 (524) 192 (309) -41% Suzuki eVitara 245 (395) 139 (224) -43% Volvo EX90 379 (611) 210 (339) -45% Lucid Air 596 (960) 323 (520) -46% Opel Grandland 300 (484) 162 (262) -46%

[–] Lemmyoutofhere@lemmy.ca 6 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

TIL -30C is “extreme cold”, here that is just called Tuesday.

[–] sorghum@sh.itjust.works 1 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

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Yeah that checks out. I'd get excited for sodium batteries if the cold weather performance is even half right.

[–] Lemmyoutofhere@lemmy.ca 2 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Sodium and hopefully solid state. If they ever get solid state figured out and affordable, will make every current EV obsolete overnight.

[–] sorghum@sh.itjust.works 2 points 6 hours ago

I'm still fine with my lithium batteries. I still expect to get 250k miles out of it. If for some reason the car outlasts the batteries, I'm gonna look at a better chemistry replacement and a BMS upgrade.

[–] golden_trashcan@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 14 hours ago (3 children)

So they claim the ranges at -30°C are proof that WLTP ranges are „unrealistic“? Given that the WLTP procedure specifies 23°C ambient air temperature, I'd say „no shit Sherlock“…

Seems like some jounalists are still absolutely clueless about EVs.

[–] calliope@retrolemmy.com 4 points 14 hours ago

It’s clickbait.

The majority of the cars traveled well over 300km in these freezing temperatures, which in real-world conditions is more than most people will drive in -30° with no chargers.

Lying about the practicality of extreme temperatures are just another way to discount EVs as reliable transportation.

[–] thisbenzingring@lemmy.today 3 points 14 hours ago

I suspect that some journalists are payola'd to write negitive things about EVs

[–] Lemmyoutofhere@lemmy.ca 1 points 13 hours ago

Yes, but new battery techs are coming and will show that range will hardly be affected by the cold, unlike current batteries. Will make a big difference in places like Canada that often see -30C.