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THE POLICE PROBLEM

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    The police problem is that police are policed by the police. Cops are accountable only to other cops, which is no accountability at all.

    99.9999% of police brutality, corruption, and misconduct is never investigated, never punished, never makes the news, so it's not on this page.

    When cops are caught breaking the law, they're investigated by other cops. Details are kept quiet, the officers' names are withheld from public knowledge, and what info is eventually released is only what police choose to release — often nothing at all.

    When police are fired — which is all too rare — they leave with 'law enforcement experience' and can easily find work in another police department nearby. It's called "Wandering Cops."

    When police testify under oath, they lie so frequently that cops themselves have a joking term for it: "testilying." Yet it's almost unheard of for police to be punished or prosecuted for perjury.

    Cops can and do get away with lawlessness, because cops protect other cops. If they don't, they aren't cops for long.

    The legal doctrine of "qualified immunity" renders police officers invulnerable to lawsuits for almost anything they do. In practice, getting past 'qualified immunity' is so unlikely, it makes headlines when it happens.

    All this is a path to a police state.

    In a free society, police must always be under serious and skeptical public oversight, with non-cops and non-cronies in charge, issuing genuine punishment when warranted.

    Police who break the law must be prosecuted like anyone else, promptly fired if guilty, and barred from ever working in law-enforcement again.

    That's the solution.

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INFO

A demonstrator's guide to understanding riot munitions

Adultification

Cops aren't supposed to be smart

Don't talk to the police.

Killings by law enforcement in Canada

Killings by law enforcement in the United Kingdom

Killings by law enforcement in the United States

Know your rights: Filming the police

Three words. 70 cases. The tragic history of 'I can’t breathe' (as of 2020)

Police aren't primarily about helping you or solving crimes.

Police lie under oath, a lot

Police spin: An object lesson in Copspeak

Police unions and arbitrators keep abusive cops on the street

Shielded from Justice: Police Brutality and Accountability in the United States

So you wanna be a cop?

When the police knock on your door

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[–] zr0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 24 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Imagine throwing that, without you or your team wear any sorts of gas mask. Obviously zero training.

[–] Digestive_Biscuit@feddit.uk 11 points 1 day ago

And the. having the wind blowing back at him and his team.

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 day ago

imagine watching this shit and not exercising your gun rights you fought for decades to have.

[–] CaptDust@sh.itjust.works 45 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Looks like those hexachloroethane canisters a judge specifically told them to stop using. It will mess you up long after the encounter is over. Put it on the pile...

[–] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 9 points 1 day ago

Pro-tip: if you're dodging gas, move upwind...

[–] sturmblast@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago
[–] hateisreality@lemmy.world 25 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Wasn't he prohibited from doing that?

[–] mracton@piefed.social 23 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] Madison420@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

That doesn't make it lawful that just means the injunction was overbroad, doing shit like this at the highest level of the agency implies it's policy and practice to infringe rights.

Ie this seems like a bad thing but is a good thing if the justice system functioned as intended.

[–] Mirshe@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Steven Miller literally just told these people, a week ago, that "literally no law can hold you to account in what you see as the commission of your duties."

They see themselves, arguably rightly, as completely immune from the rule of law.

[–] Madison420@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

So did Nazi officers and a significant portion were executed in the field and some hanged after trial. Authoritarianism is generally speaking a temporary state and the leadership usually doesn't fair too well nor do their secret police.

[–] chocrates@piefed.world 7 points 1 day ago

Yes, now who is going to enforce.

[–] Fredselfish@lemmy.world 18 points 1 day ago

Sure the judge will write another sternly written order telling them they can't do that. Fucking judges are weak ass pussies.

[–] Zaktor@sopuli.xyz 14 points 1 day ago

The previous ban on doing this was just blocked and these guys had a lot of pent up abuse to unleash. Thanks appeals court, lovely for them to always take whatever the regime wants as the baseline status quo to be preserved rather than the pre-Trump baseline. I'm sure the federal government will suffer irreparable harm by not being able to gas American citizens.

[–] CreamyJalapenoSauce@piefed.social 18 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I heard he ate the soggy biscuit in training

I heard he asked for seconds and something extra to wash it down.

[–] Zombiepirate@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

He looks like a GI-Joe that got half melted in a fondue pot.

[–] SpicyLizards@reddthat.com 10 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Not only was that an illegal ego jerk, but he really did a shit job at it

[–] Digestive_Biscuit@feddit.uk 3 points 1 day ago

My favourite part was when the wind blew it back at him.

[–] grimpy@lemmy.myserv.one 6 points 1 day ago

Greg ‘the Cow’ Bovino, well-domesticated by Sir Nappie of Florida

[–] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

"We've got a multi-billion dollar budget, they're handing these things out like koozies. We gotta use them up so we can buy more."

There's literally no reason for this.

[–] Mirshe@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The casual cruelty is the point. They want your first thought, upon seeing them, to be "oh man that guy is gonna injure or murder me". They're terror squads, and scaring the piss out of any bystanders or witnesses is absolutely what they want to do.

[–] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 day ago

They're fascists. It's funny, I don't hear people saying "You can't just call them fascists because you disagree with them!" anymore. It was never a hyperbole.