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Since early December, someone has created 65+ accounts with variations of the same name, and they have used those accounts for vote manipulation.

We reached out to the admin of the instance 4 weeks ago, recommending that they enable registration applications, upgrade the captcha difficulty, and/or require an email address to prevent this. We have not received a reply.

When we checked the logs this week, we saw that a new chain of accounts was created. This is creating extra work for our admin team to find and ban these accounts.

Defederation will block the instance, their communities, and their users from everyone on lemmy.ca and piefed.ca. Similarly, it will block content from lemmy.ca and piefed.ca from going to their instance.

Currently, less than 10 users from lemmy.ca are subscribed to a community there, the majority of which are subscribed to 1 community max.

You can view their communities here: https://lemmy.org/communities

Please share your feedback about this action in this thread.

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[–] Shadow@lemmy.ca 19 points 3 days ago

This is now done.

[–] juspie@piefed.ca 2 points 1 day ago

I support the proposal to defederate.

Thank you admins for your efforts, and also for soliciting this feedback before taking the proposed action!

[–] kunstbanause@lemmy.ca 74 points 3 days ago

Sounds reasonable, thank you for informing us. I support the proposed move.

[–] Curious_Canid@piefed.ca 45 points 3 days ago

I very much appreciate you communicating about this.

I agree that defederating seems like the right solution.

[–] JohnnyCanuck@lemmy.ca 40 points 3 days ago
[–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 43 points 3 days ago (1 children)

No objections. It looks like a small instance. Can refederate if improved.

The admin seems related to some AI ad tech firm. Also I'm curious how they got lemmy.org. It was registered in 2020. I imagine it was registered speculatively.

[–] squirrel@piefed.kobel.fyi 25 points 3 days ago (2 children)

The admin seems related to some AI ad tech firm

I found a mastodon account with the same tagline. Everything including the avatar, uploaded media and toots seem to be AI generated.

[–] AzuranAurora@piefed.ca 16 points 3 days ago

Seems we won't be losing anything of value from defederating, then. That shit doesn't belong here.

[–] RickyRigatoni@retrolemmy.com 5 points 3 days ago

The first entirely ai generated lemmy instance.

Today we see history being made, fellas.

[–] breakfastmtn@lemmy.ca 30 points 3 days ago

Four weeks with no reply? Fire away, I say.

[–] AzuranAurora@piefed.ca 22 points 3 days ago

Go for it. They're not bringing anything positive to our experience.

[–] RollingZeppelin@piefed.ca 6 points 2 days ago

Sounds good to me! The fewer bots, the better.

[–] CanadianCorhen@lemmy.ca 17 points 3 days ago

Sounds like a great reason, and i doubt any of the 10 users will notice.

[–] slothrop@lemmy.ca 24 points 3 days ago

Don't delay, defed today.

[–] MyBrainHurts@piefed.ca 19 points 3 days ago

Absolutely, seems like they're making the fediverse worse.

Thanks for your work and letting us know/vote!

[–] engene@lemmy.ca 14 points 3 days ago

Yes please! Part of the reason to move to this platform is the content and more importantly spam and bot manipulation.

[–] AFKBRBChocolate@lemmy.ca 14 points 3 days ago

Doesn't look like the negative impact would be very significant - thumbs up from me.

[–] Omega_Jimes@lemmy.ca 12 points 3 days ago

This is the beauty of federated services. If someone is making more work for you, you have every right to defed.

[–] k_rol@lemmy.ca 12 points 3 days ago

Seems like a good enough reason to defederate.

[–] veeesix@lemmy.ca 11 points 3 days ago

Why not? A quick glance shows it’s basically one guy spamming links to…himself?

[–] FreeBooteR69@lemmy.ca 10 points 3 days ago

If they are acting against the interests of the community de federate.

[–] Luci@lemmy.ca 8 points 3 days ago

This is why we can defederate. I’m for it

[–] Mouselemming@sh.itjust.works 6 points 3 days ago
[–] melsaskca@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 days ago

The customer is always right, used to be a thing.

[–] SethranKada@lemmy.ca 7 points 3 days ago
[–] WizardGed@lemmy.ca 7 points 3 days ago

Go for it. if you're running a lemmy instance and cant manage simple comms between other instance admins you really can't complain if they defederate from you. It doesn't seem very busy either with most of the posts being mirrors of other instances.

[–] yeather@lemmy.ca 7 points 3 days ago
[–] MasterOKhan@lemmy.ca 6 points 3 days ago

This is the way, defed until they update their settings.

[–] Aarrodri@lemmy.ca 5 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Imagine a gif of ben Stiller saying "do it ".

P.s. how can I add gif responses?

[–] otter@lemmy.ca 15 points 3 days ago (1 children)

You can find a link to a gif, and then add it with the image formatting

For example:

![description](https://example.com/do-it.gif)

Or

![](https://media1.tenor.com/m/HtRwK466tTIAAAAC/do-it-ben-stiller.gif)

Which becomes

[–] MyBrainHurts@piefed.ca 5 points 3 days ago

Amazing, I've wondered about that!

[–] julian@activitypub.space 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

The unfortunate thing is that this has a negative effect on the Lemmy brand, even if not affiliated.

This gets into copyright enforcement territory, though, which I don't know if Lemmy is interested in doing.

[–] 4am@lemmy.zip 6 points 3 days ago

It’s a trademark thing, not a copyright thing (those work differently) but you are correct that it will be brand-damaging.

[–] recentSlinky@lemmy.ca 4 points 3 days ago

Yes, i agree too. Defederate!

[–] MadMadBunny@lemmy.ca 4 points 3 days ago

Okay, thank you for doing this!

[–] ech@lemmy.ca 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

It looks like ttrpg.network is also being used. Will that instance be blocked as well?

[–] otter@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

If we do, we will reach out to them first with any concerns and then make another post here prior to blocking them.

Based on the time stamps, it does look like the same person made 17 accounts on ttrpg.network on December 8th before going back to making them on lemmy.org. Running a more robust query, in total I'm seeing 88 of those accounts on lemmy.org and the 17 accounts on ttrpg.network, all of which are banned on here.

Right now I'm thinking that we will keep an eye out for more accounts, and then reach out to admins if it becomes a problem on another instance

[–] ech@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 days ago

That sounds fair.

[–] Washedupcynic@lemmy.ca -1 points 3 days ago (2 children)

I am on more than one lemmy.world group. To say that your community won't feel an impact is disingenuous.

[–] Shadow@lemmy.ca 9 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[–] Washedupcynic@lemmy.ca 3 points 3 days ago

My bad, I misread

[–] k0e3@lemmy.ca 6 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Sorry if I'm misunderstanding something, but aren't lemmy.org and lemmy.world two different things?

[–] Washedupcynic@lemmy.ca 3 points 3 days ago

My bad. I misread

[–] Bonus@lemmy.ca 0 points 3 days ago (2 children)
[–] otter@lemmy.ca 3 points 3 days ago

I haven't looked into CM002, but this is a different situation.

For this one, all of the accounts were made on that instance and follow a format of phrase01, phrase02, etc

[–] pixeltree@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 3 days ago

No, he does accounts on different instances, these are all on the same one