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Former Canadian diplomat Michael Kovrig — who was detained by China for more than 1,000 days between 2018 and 2021 — says Prime Minister Mark Carney’s tone and messaging during his trip to China were “worrisome.”

In a bid to reset relations with China and counter trade threats from the United States, Carney became the first Canadian prime minister to travel to the Asian country in eight years this week.

During the trip, Carney took meetings with Chinese President Xi Jinping and Chinese Premier Li Qiang, and stated progress in Canada-China relations is “(setting) up well for the new world order,” comments which drew widespread reaction, including from Kovrig.

“Diplomacy is necessary, grinning is optional, and looking like a supplicant is undignified,” Kovrig said in an interview airing Sunday on CTV’s Question Period. “That’s not a good look. So, the optics could have been better.”

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Kovrig added he thought the prime minister’s statement about the “new world order” was a “very worrisome way to express things.”

He said Carney “standing and grinning” while shaking Xi’s hand made him uncomfortable, and that “intoning about a new world order,” surrounded by top Chinese officials, “really carries some very Orwellian overtones.”

“It’s a deeply unsettling message, and it’s a very dangerous game,” Kovrig told host Vassy Kapelos, adding it risks endorsing Chinese narratives that are “deeply problematic.”

During the English-language leaders’ debate ahead of last April’s federal election, Carney pointed to China as the biggest security threat facing Canada.

Speaking to reporters in Beijing on Friday, however, when asked whether he still believes that to be true, Carney answered that “the security landscape continues to change.”

“In a world that’s more dangerous and divided, we face many threats,” he said. “That’s the reality. And the job, my responsibilities as prime minister, the job of the government, is to manage those threats.”

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Kovrig has warned against lifting the tariffs on Chinese EVs in the past, calling it a “mistake,” and telling Kapelos last September that it could give China too much leverage in future negotiations and domestic policymaking.

Kovrig, who’s now a senior advisor with the International Crisis Group, said the deal sets a precedent in dealing with China that will have “huge implications for Canada’s industrial policy.”

“You need to free the hostages, and so there needed to be some way of releasing some of that pain. And that matters,” Kovrig said of the pressure from Canadian Prairie provinces for relief from China’s agriculture-sector tariffs. “Those tariffs were painful and politically targeted, but the relief is time-limited and reversible. Beijing kept the leverage.”

“What did Canada give up? Canada broke ranks with the U.S. on Chinese electric vehicles,” he added. “Even with quotas, the signal’s big: market access is negotiable under pressure. That teaches the Chinese Communist Party that pressure works, and it’s likely to test that again.”

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[–] Thedogdrinkscoffee@lemmy.ca 24 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

Canada broke ranks with the U.S. on Chinese electric vehicles,” he added.

This is among the most stupid things ever said and destroyed the credibility of the speaker. The US broke rank with everyone, especially Canada and even including the US to itself.

If looking like a supplicant is undignified, Micheal should pull the US cock out of his mouth.

Edit: Michael would do well to remember it was a bullshit political US warrant for a Hwawei executive's arrest that triggered his equally unjustified political arrest by China in retaliation.

No one trusts China. It's just trade under realpolitik because the US is an unreliable partner and an active threat to our sovereignty.

[–] wildbus8979@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

his equally unjustified political arrest

He WAS funneling Intel though. I feel for the other guy he used though. But Kovrig can fuck right off.

[–] grte@lemmy.ca 10 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)
[–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Thank you! This has to be reposted every time Kovrig or his wife open their mouths on this topic. They are touring the media since the deal like they're some credible actors.

[–] Levi@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Thanks for this. A friend of mine mentioned that Kovrig actually was spying and I didn't really believe him. Guess our government was lying to us at the time. :(

[–] wildbus8979@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Imagine the shit storm if the situation was reversed, if China had arrested the CEO of BlackBerry, and in retaliation we had arrested a low grade spy and his asset...

[–] Scotty@scribe.disroot.org 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Do you have any evidence for this?

[–] wildbus8979@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Somebody else already posted the links, it's in the settlement the Canadian government made with Spavor.

[–] Scotty@scribe.disroot.org -2 points 1 week ago

Yeah, the settlement over alleged spying.

I don't know whether or not he was a spy, but his isn't evidence. He allegedly was sort of a bartering chip, and he was not the first and only one. There are thousand of foreigners detained in China over 'espionage' for such reasons.

[–] Scotty@scribe.disroot.org -3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It's just trade under realpolitik because the US is an unreliable partner and an active threat to our sovereignty.

This is even more true for China.

[–] Thalion@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 week ago

Not anymore

[–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 week ago

Kovrig really sounds like a US stooge. I hope he's well compensated for it.

[–] melsaskca@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 week ago

Strutting around like a small time Napoleon doesn't help either. Being respectful is not supplication, it is civility.

[–] Scotty@scribe.disroot.org -1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

As an addition, there is a podcast on Prime Minister Mark Carney’s new trade deal with China:

Canada’s trade gamble: Why the latest deal with China may do more harm than good -- (Podcast, 25 min)

Host Cristina Howorun sits down with Flavio Volpe, President of the Automotive Parts Manufacturing Association and one of the architects of CUSMA, to discuss the implications this deal could have on the EV market, the 90,000 jobs in the auto sector and tariff and trade negotiations with the States.

(Here is an Invidious link of the podcast if you prefer that.)

[–] lemonySplit@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 week ago

The US auto company jobs are leaving Canada for the states no matter what. Best we pivot those factory jobs to a domestic EV brand ASAP