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STUP•ID•POL:
Analysis and critique of identity fetishism as a political phenomenon, from a Marxist perspective.
Like quite a lot of people, I drifted rightwards considerably between c. 2016—2022 due to left-wing radicalization during this period, especially re. racial and gender issues.
This is fucking insane. Trending right during the original Trump administration is unhinged.
This person should be studied and written about in scientific journals.
I think they're an incredibly average person and they were in the middle of a societal bottleneck. Average Joe here is basically a centrist.
From what I've seen, the drift away from the left is frequently a matter of tempo rather than ideology. Average Joe generally supports social improvement, but they prefer an incremental approach. When progressive movements demand rapid, radical shifts, they create a progression paradox by pushing too hard and too fast, so they alienate the Average Joes they need for long-term success, ironically backfiring any progress.
And, well, now look at the US sociopolitical landscape; oh boy.
For Average Joe to stay engaged, progress must be 'slow and steady'; otherwise, the resulting exhaustion leads to a defensive retreat into more conservative positions. And there are far more Average Joes than any other cohort.
I appreciate the intellectual/scientific take but I was mostly being facetious, friend.
Ah, I thought you were highlighting how remarkable the person's position was.
Remarkably stupid?
I agree with you, and this is a huge issue I see in the U.S. Average person gets angry at giving people equal rights, and accepting their differences, and they vote to make things worse for the bottom 99%, including themselves. They don't realize they were being idiots, and giving people rights doesn't take theirs away, and the cycle just continues.
True, but as you see by their post, the exact same flavour comes from either side; too far left is too much, or in their latest situation, too far right. They even specifically mention alienation.
We could say their head is screwed on boringly sensibly, while also saying they're the most annoying on the fence sitters ever. But I don't think they're idiots, they just lack the passion or interest that others with confident positions stand. If there is red and blue, they are purple and either blissfully unaware or chosenly apathetic. Strangely enough, that outlook at times helps a lot; other times it's very damaging.
Either way, they're highly sort after as voters and if you want that huge cohort on your side, you gotta be understanding. They're a simple folk. They don't want to encroach on others as much as they don't want to be encroached upon.
One of the downfalls of the left's charge was they went too much; too fast. Just as the right is now going too far—same shit; different ends of the sociopolitical spectrum. In the end, the Average Joes end up deciding when enough is enough, every time. And those the most extreme to the left or right have the least control in the matter.
nope. grew up with reagan and the right has been pushing me away my whole life. Im in the us and they keep getting worse and worse. Sure there is some extreme left that are not my thing but the right just gets worse and worse. reagan, gingrich, bush jr, now trump. they were bad enough then tea party and now maga. Basically I was left of center and should be still but the right has run so far right I would appear super left. To me though is moderate right just no longer exists. Heck extreme right disapeared. tea party. maga. thats not even right its just plain ole nuts. so to me in my life there was a spectrum when I was young. extreme left, left, left of center, center, right of center, right, extreme right. Then like over time the right has lost any moderation so it went xtremeleft, left(right treats it as extreme), loc, center, right xtremeright. then xtremeleft, left (right treats as extreme), loc (right treats as extreme), center, extremeright. then the various lefts and center now treated as extreme left and the right abandoning pretty much everything they had professed to just do crazy. patriots are those who ignore the constitution and other founding principles, christians are those who believe aggression is good and wealth is a sign of gods divine grace, and presidents can do whatever they want as long as its theres which is fine because they plan for there to never be anyone different in the role.
What are some examples of what the liberals did to scare you so much?
Just wondering if it was real or just effective propoganda.
“Cause the left is just as bad…”
… meanwhile never pointing out when the left blew up a federal building, invaded Iraq and Afghanistan, when the left decided the other half half of the country should be forced to own slaves (look up the confederate constitution), or that other choice quote of the “left” concerning “states rights”…
The left never did that they didn’t cause a civil war, a local war a regional war or an Iraq war…
NONE OF THIS SHIT HAPPENS WITHOUT RIGHT WING CONSERVATIVES
Whothe fuck can blame the left wing for this world? You never let the left accomplish shit while blaming them for everything…