Nice try NSA.
Anarchism and Social Ecology
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A community about anarchy. anarchism, social ecology, and communalism for SLRPNK! Solarpunk anarchists unite!
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Anarchism
Anarchism is a social and political theory and practice that works for a free society without domination and hierarchy.
Social Ecology
Social Ecology, developed from green anarchism, is the idea that our ecological problems have their ultimate roots in our social problems. This is because the domination of nature and our ecology by humanity has its ultimate roots in the domination humanity by humans. Therefore, the solutions to our ecological problems are found by addressing our social and ecological problems simultaneously.
Libraries
Audiobooks
- General audiobooks
- LibriVox Public domain book collection where you can find audiobooks from old communist, socialist, and anarchist authors.
- Anarchist audiobooks
- Socialist Audiobooks
- Social Ecology Audiobooks
Quotes
Poetry and imagination must be integrated with science and technology, for we have evolved beyond an innocence that can be nourished exclusively by myths and dreams.
~ Murray Bookchin, The Ecology of Freedom
People want to treat ‘we’ll figure it out by working to get there’ as some sort of rhetorical evasion instead of being a fundamental expression of trust in the power of conscious collective effort.
~Anonymous, but quoted by Mariame Kaba, We Do This 'Til We Free Us
The end justifies the means. But what if there never is an end? All we have is means.
~Ursula K. Le Guin, The Lathe of Heaven
The assumption that what currently exists must necessarily exist is the acid that corrodes all visionary thinking.
~Murray Bookchin, "A Politics for the Twenty-First Century"
There can be no separation of the revolutionary process from the revolutionary goal. A society based on self-administration must be achieved by means of self-administration.
~Murray Bookchin, Post Scarcity Anarchism
In modern times humans have become a wolf not only to humans, but to all nature.
The ecological question is fundamentally solved as the system is repressed and a socialist social system develops. That does not mean you cannot do something for the environment right away. On the contrary, it is necessary to combine the fight for the environment with the struggle for a general social revolution...
~Abdullah Öcalan
Social ecology advances a message that calls not only for a society free of hierarchy and hierarchical sensibilities, but for an ethics that places humanity in the natural world as an agent for rendering evolution social and natural fully self-conscious.
~ Murray Bookchin
Network
What's wrong with the public one?
Not everyone in this group is on lemmy. And also we're planning on getting on a voice call to discuss the text
Ah… GL on ur voice thing.
I'm interested. I'm already pretty active on Signal in anarchist adjacent groups.
Please reconsider. You can join a group like that without giving away your phone number to a person you don't know, asking for it online. See relevant comment in this comment section.
I haven't given my phone number out to anyone in the groups I'm in. They sent a group link.
I got some from Lemmy and some from Mastodon.
Is Signal invaded by mercan spies? Is this request just an attempt by the CIA, FBI and NSA to get anarchists to self identify?
I think Signal is still pretty ok. This is not a great argument in its favor, but I personally know several US contractors and govt employees that still use it for coordination, and they wouldn't use it if they thought it was compromised (even by the US govt). A backdoor for one group means a backdoor for everyone.
Maybe, but you need to give it your mobile phone number, which makes it easy to get your real identity and even track your location.
The reason it's on signal is because a lot of the people that use it aren't on lemmy at all. They come from mastodon and raddle and places like that. Also we usually discuss the texts over a voice call instead of just on a forum
FYI you can hide your phone number from other Signal users.
Yes, but not from Signal (and thus the US government).
To my understanding the backdoor was opened in 2021.
we must depart from our totally-open posture and develop one piece of the server in private
[source: Signal]
Did you read that article? It doesn't support your position that it's a backdoor or that it has the possibility of being a backdoor.
Why signal? Seems sus to go offsite like such.
Because not everyone in the group is on this site. And also we're going to do a voice call to discuss it
Movim could be a good alternative. It supports group chats and group voice/video calls, and uses XMPP on the backend.
Maybe, I'll look into it.
I will repeat stuff that are already present in this conversation because I consider this super important.
With Signal one has to share their phone number. Please don't share your phone number with random people you meet online.
That is not entirely correct. It could happen that you share your phone number unintentionally and its good to make people aware of that possibility, but Signal allows you to join groups without revealing your phone number.
More information on this here: https://signal.org/blog/phone-number-privacy-usernames/
Thank you for the info!
Just a reminder that Signal is not 100% open source since 2021. This means that we can no longer verify if what they say about privacy, security, etc, is true.
I am not happy about the amount of fedjacketing in this thread. Instead of calling users cops (as a joke), try better and provide information why joining Signal groups from anonymous users might involve some risk.
If you already have the group in Signal, using its encrypted voice chat makes sense.
but op is asking us to register to theirs, without mentioning in the OP it's a voicechat discussion group. the op would be much different than what we are seeing being phished.