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[–] fodor@lemmy.zip 26 points 12 hours ago

No no no. Brazil forced Apple to open it's devices to third party options. Apple folded because it had no choice.

(Of course it could leave Brazil, but then shareholders would sue the execs for basic incompetence or whatever, and win, of course.)

[–] Xylight 17 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago)

Man i feel like if Apple opened up their systems, it would barely affect revenue, and would make android much less appealing. proper sideloading and full control over the OS would genuinely remove a lot of barriers for hardcore android users to move to ios.

[–] DoctorPress@lemmy.zip 25 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

this shows apple is actually capable of supporting third party apps but decides to simply not. I still don't get the hype around "You'll own nothing and be happy".

[–] Tyrq@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

It's not hype, it's a threat

[–] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 6 points 5 hours ago

A lot of idiots apparently don't mind.

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 24 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

will let

This implies there was a choice. I'd've been glad for a "must let" headline.

[–] balsoft@lemmy.ml 4 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

I think the actual headline should be "Apple forced to remove some illegal barriers to app installation for users in Brazil".

I am annoyed by the headline giving Apple the agency to let users use their device. Screw that, if someone buys a device they should be able to use it however they please, including installing their own OS and their own apps on top, and replacing any part of the hardware. Anything preventing that should be illegal.

[–] ranzispa@mander.xyz 81 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Cool stuff, this proves it is possible. Let's require it worldwide.

[–] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 0 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

Eh, or just buy an android. How dumb is this shit?

I support it, don't get me wrong... But like, guys, we solved this over a decade ago.

[–] balsoft@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 hours ago
  1. This is not a problem that needs solving, it's an artificial barrier to prevent you from using the device which reduces profit for the manufacturer. Being able to install and run whatever software you want (apart from actual hardware limitations) has been part of personal computers since the invention of personal computers.
  2. Google is trying its best to do this as well, if you've missed the news.
[–] ranzispa@mander.xyz 4 points 5 hours ago

Android is trying to block anything which is not the play store as well...

[–] NachBarcelona@piefed.social 14 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Side loading on thlse bullshit devices has been a EU thing for years.

[–] themurphy@lemmy.ml 26 points 22 hours ago

That's where these rules are coming from. EU made the first move, and countries around the world follows.

It's like this with most laws. But the world depends on the first mover. Right now for everything on consumer protection, it's the EU they look at.

[–] hornedfiend@sopuli.xyz 7 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago) (1 children)

Yes and no. Apple managed to fuck that up using something called "notarized apps". Guess how many apps you can sideload? I think you have more than enough fingers to do that easily.

[–] NachBarcelona@piefed.social 0 points 5 hours ago (1 children)
[–] hornedfiend@sopuli.xyz 1 points 2 hours ago

goddamn, you a damn good pianist brother.

[–] e8CArkcAuLE@piefed.social 2 points 17 hours ago

what possibility are you referring to? i only knew about the dev app workaround but you would have to reload the app every 7 days

[–] Mondez 7 points 21 hours ago

Still got the onerous signing procedure that still makes devs pay a tithe to Apple like in other markets I assume?

[–] NullPointerException@lemmy.ca 14 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I don’t really want side loading, I just want, as a foreign that frequently goes to Brazil, to be able to install apps from the Brazilian AppStore. I can’t use many apps because they’re not in my AppStore. It seems side loading is a possibility.

[–] buffing_lecturer@leminal.space 15 points 1 day ago (2 children)

So right now, I assume, the store content is based on your apple account country not your geolocation?

[–] elgordino@fedia.io 15 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yeah. It’s super annoying when visiting a foreign country and you want to install an app for a local transport provider. If they haven’t made their app available globally you just can’t install it.

Or for expats who buy a phone in their new country and cant access their apps anymore. Even worse as more businesses require the use of their app for certain things and don't offer a web app.

[–] NullPointerException@lemmy.ca 1 points 23 hours ago

I imagine they use this as a way of removing an app from a country that forbids it. But also, I think you, as a dev, pay more if you want your app in all AppStores. As other said, transport app, food delivery and other services are a pain to have if they’re not available in your country’s AppStore.

[–] Zachariah@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] Mondez 9 points 21 hours ago (1 children)
[–] badgermurphy@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

Do you mean that you, personally do not have any use for side loading, or that you want side loading to not be an option?

[–] e8CArkcAuLE@piefed.social 7 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

could i change my apple account country to brasil in order to enjoy these options outside of Brasil?

[–] W3dd1e@lemmy.zip 4 points 21 hours ago

Nope. It’s physical location, and in Europe, you have to verify your physical location every so-many days.

I was going on vacation to Europe so I was going to try it, but my trip got cancelled.

[–] driving_crooner@lemmy.eco.br 4 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Yes, but you have to write "please come to Brazil" on every artist post.

[–] e8CArkcAuLE@piefed.social 1 points 17 hours ago

please come to Brazil, foda.

[–] driving_crooner@lemmy.eco.br 5 points 22 hours ago

They neither can't sold the charger separately of the phone in Brazil

[–] tinsuke@lemmy.world 2 points 20 hours ago

With a fine of ~$27 million, I think they'll just pretend to be working on it, get the "good guys, complying with legislation and opening up the platform", not do it (or at least, not in any satisfactory way), and pay the fine, if it gets applied.

[–] NachBarcelona@piefed.social 2 points 1 day ago

Now how generous of them.