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[–] neatchee@piefed.social 56 points 4 hours ago (3 children)

I hate that this particular story is being picked up. it's a single report to the FBI from someone decades after it allegedly happened. Literally the best possible example of hearsay

The Epstein docs have so much far more damning evidence that is verifiable. Focusing on what amounts to a single phone call to the FBI - something I could do myself tomorrow - makes us look like bafoons

[–] Catoblepas@piefed.blahaj.zone 27 points 3 hours ago

Hearsay is when someone says they heard that x happened, but didn’t see it personally. This is eyewitness testimony, as in the person making the allegation says they saw it happen. For it to be hearsay she would have needed to disclose it to another person who then disclosed it to the FBI.

[–] pinheadednightmare@lemmy.world 18 points 4 hours ago

They are intentionally picking at this for that reason. Easy to dismiss, so the rest they can just say is the same quality

[–] fodor@lemmy.zip 9 points 3 hours ago

No, you misunderstand. His fanboys will never change. The question is whether the FBI and DOJ have actually investigated anything. And this is an example where they didn't. That's more felonies for lying to Congress, that's more dark shit to look into.

Remember, we aren't a court. We don't need proof beyond a reasonable doubt. We are the people demanding transparency and oversight. Justice? Fuck, he would die before any trial took place, at this point, he's just too old and too sick.

[–] CanadianCorhen@lemmy.ca 10 points 4 hours ago

As much as I hate trump, and would love this to be true, it's well in the catagory of "uh he h, sure"

I can believe he would SA women and girls, but this is two steps further, and is a very uncomfortable report.

Shit like this is plenty bad

[–] theuniqueone@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

This is not something to focus on I'm going to need much more evidence and information before taking a claim like this seriously but this is all over with people treating it like a established fact which makes anti-trumpers look silly.

[–] cecilkorik@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 hour ago

Provided that: Trump is allowed to, without ever disclosing any evidence, presume people to be immigrants, and then to also presume them to be illegal, until proven innocent, sending them to prison camps in the meantime, often without ever giving them any effective trial at any point; then I can likewise presume him guilty of these crimes until and unless he's proven innocent too.

The difference is my presumption of guilt does not (and will not) result in him getting sent to a prison camp (unfortunately). Maybe you still think that is a realistic option if we just make sure to focus on the "right" evidence to eventually convict King Trump who hasn't already found half a dozen ways to prematurely pardon himself of all possible wrongdoing. I don't.

So you're simply not going to stop me from presuming him guilty. Go ahead and call me or anyone who is willing to believe this a "silly" "anti-trumper" if you want. It will just make you look like a disingenuous moron.

This is not a logical, rational debate between opposing and equally valid positions that will be resolved fairly by following a specific process. This is an ideological war against inhumanity and injustice, and all is fair in love and war. Trump is inhumane, Trump is unjust, and Trump is guilty, and I don't need any more evidence for any of that than the present reality has already provided. I am not a judge and this is not a trial, this is my personal opinion, and I will not relinquish my entitlement to it, thankyouverymuch.

[–] optissima@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 hours ago

Here's how I am taking it: they have tampered with evidence in a way that implicates him for all claims until evidence tampering is fully corrected.

[–] Sunshine@piefed.ca 17 points 5 hours ago

Bone spur coward!

[–] SeeMarkFly@lemmy.ml 7 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

The worst part is the hypocrisy.

[–] sanpo@sopuli.xyz 28 points 4 hours ago

No, I'm pretty sure it's still all the rape and murder.

[–] Hux@lemmy.ml 11 points 4 hours ago

I bet the baby might argue the infanticide was the worst part.