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[–] Quexotic@sh.itjust.works 3 points 3 hours ago

Sometimes I wonder if it wouldn't be better to be in the meat grinder. It would imbue concrete purpose. Head first though. That'd be nicer.

[–] afk_strats@lemmy.world 19 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

You can't have any pudding if you don't eat your meat.

[–] aviationeast@lemmy.world 7 points 3 hours ago

How can you have any pudding if you don't eat your meat?

[–] AnDoLiN@lemmy.zip 8 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

The idea of free will is just a tool of tyranny. That's the excuse they can use to persecute everyone who doesn't "choose" to do the "right" thing. What the "right" thing is depends entirely on the cultural sensibilities of the time.

Do you have insomnia or do you just "choose" to be lazy.

Are you an alcoholic or do you just "choose" to drink.

Do you genuinely enjoy exercise or do you "choose" to do it?

Do you just value family or do you "choose" to prioritize it.

You will always do the best damn thing that's available to you and arbitrarily it's either vice or virtue.

There but for the grace of god go I.

[–] aviationeast@lemmy.world 2 points 3 hours ago

Even if free will is an illusion, its best to teach it. Otherwise you'll have people going its not my fault I killed my father. I was prophesied to do so.

[–] NerdInSuspenders@leminal.space 4 points 6 hours ago

Will has been locked up too long!

[–] fleem@piefed.zeromedia.vip 15 points 8 hours ago (1 children)
[–] FartMaster69@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

hell yeah super mario galaxy time

[–] fleem@piefed.zeromedia.vip 3 points 6 hours ago

i need to actually give that one an honest chance. i only ever tried it when it was new in front of my wee one. who's now a teenager.

i haven't beaten a mainline mario since i lost my memory card in the middle of sunshine! 😭 i was about as old as my kid is now!

[–] Tylerdurdon@lemmy.world 9 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

I don't know what Will did, but I think he should be freed too.

[–] marcos@lemmy.world 4 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

It's a typo on the post, the movie is about Willy.

[–] essell@lemmy.world 3 points 7 hours ago (1 children)
[–] Tylerdurdon@lemmy.world 3 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

My cousin freed Willy at the family get together last year and boy was Aunt Marge upset. Those mashed potatoes were practically inedible!

[–] essell@lemmy.world 3 points 6 hours ago

And the less said about the cream corn the better

[–] sem@piefed.blahaj.zone 6 points 7 hours ago

I don't get what the indoctrination in the wall has to do with free will?

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 6 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Does a poor person have the same free will as a rich person?

Does a rat trapped in a maze have free will?

Does a veal calf have free will?

[–] essell@lemmy.world 5 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Freedom no, that's not a binary state.

Free will? Yes. They have the capacity to react to their environment. The veal cow's sadness and suffering are evidence of the free will to react.

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 2 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Sadness and suffering aren't choices, so where does will come in?

[–] essell@lemmy.world 1 points 38 minutes ago (1 children)

I'd say they are choices, just not concious choices.

You can demonstrate this by noticing the way different people have different reactions to the same experiences or events.

Easiest to see in people because of the greater awareness and agency but it applies to cows too because they're smart enough to have individual personalities

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 1 points 34 minutes ago (1 children)

Some people have different reactions to pollen than others, is that free will too?

[–] essell@lemmy.world 1 points 27 minutes ago (1 children)

Yeah, totally.

I laugh at my hayfever, through the sneezing and the coughing. My husband gets angry.

So we have very different levels of "suffering" to the same experience.

Good example, thanks.

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 1 points 16 minutes ago

I meant I don't have any reaction to the experience of pollen, because I'm not allergic. Is that also free will?

[–] diabetic_porcupine@lemmy.world 2 points 6 hours ago