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Okay, here we go: I woke up to a scam message on my WhatsApp. I just blocked the number, before starting to wonder how they got my number. And guess what I found out? They got a data breach and didn't tell their users a singular thing. And when asked about it, they tried to deny it.


(In Portuguese for whoever can/wants to read it): https://itshow.com.br/hacker-vende-dados-clientes-infraestrutura-aws-claro/

So, here I am to ask: What can I do to avoid getting my phone number "less breacheable"? Is there a specific company that supports brazillian phone numbering I should switch to now?

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[–] Ulrich@feddit.org 17 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)
[–] MeowerMisfit817@lemmy.world 10 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Okay, but they leaked my whole phone number, WhatsApp isn't my main focus now, I think I'll gonna have to switch phone number companies.

(btw I can't abandon whatsapp, my relatives are ignorant ogres who wont download even signal)

[–] Ulrich@feddit.org 15 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

I wasn't suggesting they leaked only partial phone numbers?

Doesn't matter what phone company you have, Whatsapp already has your phone number and they allow anyone to scrape it.

But really there's so many different ways they can get your #. No way to stop that realistically. I change my phone # every year or so.

[–] MeowerMisfit817@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

But as I said, it isn't only WhatsApp, my phone operator also happened to have a data leak and keep quiet about it.

[–] Ulrich@feddit.org 8 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

My point is changing providers is a fruitless endeavour. Your phone number is probably sourced and sold several times/day. Switch carriers and they'll do the same thing. Why? Because no one will stop them, and most people don't know or even care, so why wouldn't they? And your phone number is already out there anyway, there's no taking it back.

[–] MeowerMisfit817@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Sooo, nothing we can do about it?

[–] Ulrich@feddit.org 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Yes and no. You can try and go without a phone number but I've found that to be literally impossible. Or you can change your phone # periodically, that's what I do.

[–] MeowerMisfit817@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

How's it impossible? Can't I just, like, afford one of those small fix phones for poeple to call me?

[–] Ulrich@feddit.org 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I don't know what a "small fix phone" is, but the phone is not the problem. The problem is basic services that require a phone number as part of your registration.

[–] MeowerMisfit817@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Oh. Fix Phone, I don't know if this is the term in English, but I mean it as... one of these on the image, that you leave at home. Also called by the Weirdos That Refuse To Download Signal at my house, "Home's Phone".

[–] Ulrich@feddit.org 2 points 3 weeks ago

Oh yeah, that's a "home phone" or a "landline phone". But these types of phones cannot receive SMS messages so they don't solve the problem.

[–] Auli@lemmy.ca 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Yep. And does it matter. I know my numbers out there don't get many spam calls though. I guess not picking up and doing call screening is effective.

[–] MeowerMisfit817@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago

What is call screening? I'm not native, sorry.

[–] Auli@lemmy.ca 1 points 3 weeks ago

Who cares? If it's spam callers they call every number available anyways.

[–] bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de 8 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

FWIW, scientists recently got all WhatsApp numbers. That could also have been done by anyone else. Don't know if that has been fixed by now.

[–] MeowerMisfit817@lemmy.world 5 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

(now what does fwiw mean?)

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 17 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Filled with icky worms.

~Or~ ~"for~ ~what~ ~it's~ ~worth",~ ~but~ ~I~ ~like~ ~mine~ ~better.~

[–] bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de 3 points 3 weeks ago

Filled with icky worms. Because it's bad news.

[–] orochi02@feddit.org 2 points 3 weeks ago

Filled with icky worms

[–] JASN_DE@feddit.org 0 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

What can I do to avoid getting my phone number "less breacheable"?

Don't have a telephone number. Even if you never list it anywhere, a simple "brute force" attack (I.e. simply trying all possible combinations) will still work.

Apart from that, don't share your phone numbers, which would basically make the number useless.

There is no longer a good way to keep a phone number really private.

[–] MeowerMisfit817@lemmy.world 0 points 3 weeks ago

I guess this ain't really a option, Signal and some services (e. g: getting mobile data to use when you're wifiless) kinda need a phone number.

[–] MarriedCavelady50@lemmy.ml -5 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

A google voice number filters out spammers very well, and I hand it out to all the dipshits who ask for my phone number. Set it on mute so they can’t even call you. Use the number to poison data as well.

Only people I care about get my real number.

[–] MeowerMisfit817@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago

You really recomending Google services on a privacy thread?

[–] Auli@lemmy.ca 1 points 3 weeks ago

My provider must do a good job as I barely get spam calls. On another it was more common.