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Caught "Kill Bill: The Whole Bloody Affair" tonight... (lemmy.world)
submitted 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) by jordanlund@lemmy.world to c/movies@lemmy.world
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2 PM showing, 15 minute intermission, back to the car just before 7 PM... that was an experience!

The changes are actually pretty minor:

  1. The anime sequence that provides O-Ren's backstory is extended, showing how she got her revenge on the assassin who killed her parents, not just the boss who ordered it.

  2. In the original fight with the Crazy 88, she does an eye pluck and the rest of the fight is in black and white, this cut remains in color for the full run of part 1.

  3. Part One ends right after The Bride's speech to Sophie, "And I want them all to know they'll soon be as dead as O-Ren." Break for intermission. No cliffhanger.

  4. Part 2 opens with the Church scene, a recap of part 1 not being necessary.

  5. Added material after the end credits including a new scene set after the killing of Vernita Greene showing the end of the Pussy Wagon. Gogo's sister flies to L.A. for revenge.

That whole sequence is weird as it's, not kidding, animated in Fortnite and seems to follow Fortnite violence rules. Uma Thurman does return to do the voice of the Bride though.

Overall, it's a good flick, but I think I like the original versions better.

First, the second movie also has sequences in black and white, and because the big fight scene is now in full color, there's no precedent for the B&W footage, it just kinda comes out of nowhere.

Second, the cliffhanger at the end of part 1 is epic, it seems criminal to cut it.

Third, Fortnite? Seriously? They couldn't even be bothered to call the Pussy Wagon "Pussy Wagon", it's "😸 Wagon".

Edit The Fortnite clip is on the Fortnite YouTube channel:

https://youtu.be/PrUI5Ys3OwE

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[–] bonenode@piefed.social 28 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

Fortnite. What the hell. I think I am going to refuse to watch this.

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 11 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

That was my reaction. I saw a review referencing it and I was like "Somehow the Bride returns!" What is going on in this timeline?

I get doing it in animation, but Fortnite animation?

[–] cabbage@piefed.social 5 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

I guess there's a justification of sorts in the way Kill Bill itself deals with the animated sequence, having the style of animation change as we progress through time. So in a way this puts it in the present. Which would be easier to justify had Kill Bill been a new movie, but maybe this sequence takes place a few years later.

But even if so.. Yeah, I find this hard to accept. Why not cooperate with a real studio. I would have been so excitedβ€”now I just don't care at all.

[–] loie@lemmy.world 9 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Because you know Kill Bill, it's for the kids!

[–] cabbage@piefed.social 6 points 3 weeks ago

It's for Kiddoβ€”I guess they got it messed up.

[–] IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

was it intended as a fortnite collab or the animation style match?

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

It's an actual collab with Kill Bill skins and such.

[–] IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago

I think we are in the wrong timeline

[–] I_Has_A_Hat@lemmy.world 8 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

So is this just a rerelease of the 2011 version of The Whole Bloody Affair with a fortnight scene tacked on to the end? Or did they change other things too?

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago

It's a wide release since the original was never seen outside a bare handfull of theaters, but yes.

[–] CompactFlax@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I’m hoping to catch it later this month, only because Tarantino talks about how his movies should be seen in theatres, and they’re never in theatres.

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I'm pleased to say I've seen all of them during the original theatrical runs and for the most part, yes, 100% worth it.

Not a fan of Jackie Brown, Death Proof, or Once Upon a Time in America, but still glad I saw them.

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Jackie Brown and Death proof were retromod movies, but Once Upon a time had some great writing and acting. It's just people feel uncomfortable with re-writing historical events.

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I was OK with that, it's just that for a large part of the movie nothing fucking happens. Lots of driving around 1969 LA listening to vintage radio commercials, not even a killer soundtrack as you'd expect from Tarantino...

Same beef with Jackie Brown... lots of long, slow shots of Pam Grier walking. We get it, Tarantino's a foot guy, and Grier does have gorgeous legs... but come on!

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Yeah but that was immersive. There was an era when no one was out on the town because they didn't want to miss their TV episode that week, and the day after, it's all people talked about. Major FOMO with network TV.

The long scenes with Di Caprio acting in a western were brilliant. Too much of Hollywood is full action for 2 hours and it gets tedious fast.

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago

That scene with the little girl was amazing!

[–] CluckN@lemmy.world 6 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

I’m cracking up did they seriously add a Fortnite after credits scene? I couldn’t find any clips of it.

[–] cabbage@piefed.social 5 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (2 children)

Yuki's Revenge on IMDB, rocking a predictable 5.6 score.

Here's the trailer on YouTube. I haven't watched it with sound, but the art style is horrendous. Bloody shame.

I just want a proper, no bullshit live action Kill Bill 3 with Uma Thurman where a now grown up daughter of Copperhead comes back for revenge. Is that really too much to ask.

[–] acosmichippo@lemmy.world 5 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

oh i figured it was just vaguely in the style of fortnite. But no, it’s an official fortnite tie in meaning QT sold out his film. what a shame.

[–] cabbage@piefed.social 3 points 3 weeks ago

Yeah. It's hard to stomach.

I only hope he got a shit ton of money and raised it to spend it on something more worthwhile. Maybe it's a way to gain independence from the major studios.

Maybe. But I feel like he just sold out.

Oh wellβ€”it's not worse than the Weinstein company.

[–] Rose@lemmy.zip 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

The IMDB score is meaningless, as it's very easy to abuse. I've read a story of a person creating countless accounts just to manipulate a score on Metacritic. Even if the platforms had a strict verification system so it's one account per user, they're still subject to review bombing from people who just disdain anything Fortnite, like Steam fans who hate Epic or Linux users who can't play the game. It's not like an exit poll of those who have actually watched the short film.

[–] cabbage@piefed.social 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Yeah, and it's particularly unreliable for new movies. And even when it's not abused it's obviously just a measure of popular taste - which is widely known to be pretty shit. So yeah, I agree with your reluctance towards that source.

Nevertheless, checking 10/10 reviews of Tarantino's short on IMDB, one of the top reviews boast about how "the entire fight scene including the usage of curses like the original films do"β€”as if hearing a character from their favorite video game swear is such a thrill it justifies a top score. It's hard to be to optimistic.

I don't think the haters care much about fortnite, we just don't like sell-outs. My only feelings towards fortnite is that I'm happy my nephew is finally playing something else than fucking roblox. Tarantino would have been equally wise to team up with either, in my opinion.

[–] Rose@lemmy.zip 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Fortnite is much more than what non-players see it as though. There are now separate games within Fortnite, which play nothing like the Battle Royale. Lego Fortnite is like Minecraft but with Lego characters. Rocket Racing is an arcade racing game with cool tricks from Rocket League, kinda like what I've heard of Trackmania. Fortnite Festival is a rhythm game from the creators of Guitar Hero, featuring countless licensed tracks. Ballistic is Epic's take on Counter-Strike and Valorant. And so on.

The number of crossovers in Fortnite is also unparalleled. If nothing else, I'd be interested in it for The Matrix, Terminator, Alien, or Star Wars crossovers. You could play as the Terminator with a Star Wars backpack. Quite fun and unique, IMO.

As for Kill Bill, there are quite a few comments saying Tarantino did it for the money, but isn't the same true for everything? Every top-tier filmmaker makes films in part for the money and wouldn't do it if they were barely paid. That doesn't mean they agree to anything or that their vision isn't in the product.

[–] cabbage@piefed.social 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I think most great artists pursue their art because of a love of the art. Film making is expensive and like everyone else they need to put food on the table, but any artist who is in it for the money is already lost.

I haven't seen Megalopolis yet, but I think it's a great example of a film maker having no interest in return of investment. The closing statements of Life of Brian is another great example: "I told him, I said to him, Bernie, I said, they'll never make their money back."

As for Fortnite, it might be more similar to Roblox than I thought. ;)

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

Megalopolis is an interesting watch, lots of allegory which blows by people and they go "I don't get it, 0/10."

[–] cabbage@piefed.social 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Thanks! I was traveling too much while it was in the cinema, but it's one of the few movies in recent years I've been sad to miss. If nothing else it looks like something different. Happy to hear it's not universally hated!

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago

I was lucky enough to catch it in the theater then imported the 4K disc set. The Blu Ray is region locked, but the 4K is region free.

For some damn reason he's making it super hard to watch it in the US. No official streaming and no official physical. You have to hope to catch the theater road show.

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago

Found it on the Fortnite YouTube channel:

https://youtu.be/PrUI5Ys3OwE

[–] HeyJoe@lemmy.world 6 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

My friend was talking about seeing this a month ago and then found out the new scene was made in fortnite and now refuses. We also thought that was dumb to do. It just seemed like he sold out to make a fortnite promotion more than anything and thats pretty awful. Besides that thanks for the list of other changes since we really didnt think there were any.

He was also talking about how bad Paul Dano is recently which was also in bad taste. I really hope he hasn't lost it in his old age... I really dont want to end up hating him over saying more dumb stuff.

[–] VonReposti@feddit.dk 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

The director reunited with Uma Thurman for a motion-capture short film called "The Lost Chapter: Yuki's Revenge," as created in Fortnite's game engine (source)

So... Unreal Engine?

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Yeah, but with Fortnite graphics. Unreal 5 is capable of so much more.

[–] VonReposti@feddit.dk 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Shit, they really did that? How the mighty have fallen...

[–] ramble81@lemmy.zip 5 points 3 weeks ago

Okay, so it’s just a George Lucas style re-release of the original two. Got it.

[–] dditty@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 3 weeks ago

I went and saw this on Friday night. The changes were minor like you recapped. I think this is my preferred way to view them in the context of a double-feature since it cuts down some of the otherwise duplicate content, and I enjoyed the Crazy 88 scene being in color as QT originally intended it to be. But yeah staying through the credits for a fortnite tie-in was quite a let-down.

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 3 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

I liked Lucy Liu's acting. She is far more talented than people give her credit for, but she gets cast into shitty roles. She was brilliant on SNL, seriously funny.

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

She was fantastic in Kill Bill, and Charlie's Angels. But man, it's been a minute since I've seen her in anything. Edit Completely forgot about the Shazam sequel...

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 2 points 3 weeks ago

Watson, but it was a shit series. Cameo on Curb Your Enthusiasm.

I saw an art exhibit in LA that was impressive and a week later found out she was the artist. So many actors are shit at art. CoughJimCarreyCough.

[–] dondelelcaro@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I haven't seen it, but I heard good things about her acting (and she's also the producer) in Rosemead: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt13109732/

[–] exasperation@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 3 weeks ago

That trailer looks pretty intriguing.

[–] garretble@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago

Adding Fortnite?

I bet Paul Dano would have done a better job with all this.

[–] Regrettable_incident@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

  1. I actually liked the eye pluck changing the rest of the fight to black and white. That was a good decision imo.

  2. I wondered what happened to the Pussy Wagon. . ? Yeah sounds a bit weird. Fortnite?

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago

Yeah, the only reference to the Pussy Wagon in part 2 is when she's talking to Esteban and tells him it broke down on her.

[–] nailingjello@piefed.zip 2 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Thanksfor the recap, this really helped. Loved the originals, I'll just stick to rewatching them.

[–] lemmy_acct_id_8647@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago

I was so hoping this would come to my theater. Instead they’ve got like 3 screws dedicated to holiday films from the 2000s

[–] BigBananaDealer@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago

i saw it too and it was so fucking cool

i feel bad for the people refusing to see it just cause gasp fortnite! 😭😭😭😭 just so pathetic

i might go see it a second time if its still playing in my state

also i had never seen it before so im glad it was this version i saw first