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"Homo Aqua"

Written by: Russell T Davies

Directed by: Dylan Holmes Williams


"Plastic Apocalypse"

Written by: Pete McTighe

Directed by: Dylan Holmes Williams


Since the series has been released in the UK, here are the discussion posts!

I am decidely not in the UK, so I will contribute when I am able. When the series is released globally, I'll put up an index to these threads in hopes that we can get some discussion going. Not ideal, but the best we can do.

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I've only watched the first episode, I don't know if I'll watch the rest. I think I've hit on the key problem that this episode has: Interesting ideas, that it just doesn't do anything interesting with. There are three key areas the episode could have focused on:

  • Translation. You have to be incredibly arrogant to assume you could instantly translate a language you've never spoken before. We get some hints of this but they never lead anywhere because the whole scene is cut off by the emergency alert and the cut to the news montage. The mistranslation we briefly see never has a chance to set in with any major down-the-line consequences. Even the reference to misgendering is a throwaway because there was never any danger of it leading to offence, and it comes across virtue signally more than having meaning. And I am very confused why the scene is directed as if this is the first time they've shared a dialogue, when there is loads of dialogue, equipment, and prior process to suggest they've already done this before.
  • Diplomacy. Similar to translation, we never get a chance for any misunderstandings, cultural shocks, subterfuge, political bargaining. We get a generic british diplomat who has to leave before we even get a chance to know him and his mindset. We get some obvious low hanging fruit about pollution, but without any serious discussion. I suspect this may come in later episodes, but this first one fails to make a big impression on this.
  • Gerry Anderson rube goldberg machines. The big tank forms a huge set piece. We get a very quick tease of a disaster scene, but it doesn't lead anywhere. It fails to grip me with drama because there's a sudden fear things are going to go wrong, only for the problem to immediately resolve without UNIT's intervention itself when unnamed scaffold worker #3 tightens a bolt and fixes everything. If they wanted to play this up, they failed.

Other gripes:

  • It starts with a dodgy CGI jumpscare, the soil liquefaction scene was honestly more terrifying, as something that can actually really happen in certain circumstances like earthquakes, but that only takes place about 10 minutes in. The liquefaction murder would have been a far more terrifying cold open that jumping in to a fishing boat monster. The story is being told from Barclay's perspective, so I don't think we should have seen any of the monster until the first time Barclay sees it in person.
  • The voices of many of the cast were far to mumbly, I needed subtitles early on. No nonsense army captain has a particularly low monotone voice.
  • The reference to the doctor didn't need to be there, it didn't contribute to the plot in any way. A spinoff needs to be able to stand on its own two feet. We already have UNIT, Kate, etc as the "hand over" characters, and I didn't even see the whoniverse logo at the start, so I don't know what the ultimate goal is there.
  • Another admin security failure from UNIT. They keep doing this. They're supposed to be the toughest top level security force on the planet, and they can't get a basic HR form right. I can suspend my disbelief for sea monsters and instant translation tech, but 'I'm here by accident' is just to much. The hand wavy "ah, but you're the civilian we need here" doesn't fix it.
  • Various minor writing issues. They "put the body far away from the village"? It's literally in one of the houses next door. "I'm here by accident", to which army guy immediately replies "So you're saying you're here by accident". Why the deck chairs just to watch a loudspeaker blast some sound waves? Why is a helicopter carrying steel beams across london?
[โ€“] Lumidaub@feddit.org 4 points 5 days ago

I struggle to come up with meaningful stuff to say. It's fine, I liked it, not blown away, will keep watching. Thought the dialogue was unnatural and repetitive in some (several) places, but at least it seems like McTighe isn't cheering for capitalism and the military this time around. RTD is trying his darndest to show his support for enbys.

๐Ÿงœโ€โ™‚๏ธI really need to know why Salt seems to be the only one who gets to have a distinctly homo sapiens face.