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[–] PugJesus@piefed.social 53 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Explanation: The American holiday of Thanksgiving has come to be linked to remembrance of when some local Native American tribes stopped 'pilgrim' settlers in Plymouth, Massachusetts, from starving to death in their new settlement.

... had they known how they would have been repaid, they may have just left the pilgrims to their own devices...

[–] A_Union_of_Kobolds@lemmy.world 36 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

Fun fact I learned from the book 1491, the Plymouth settlement was right on top of a native village that had just been wiped out by (likely) European disease, which was actively decimating the region's population.

Imagine, a bunch of crackers take over your dead cousin's house, mess everything up, half the people you know are sick and dying, and you still helped them... only for the remaining colonization effort to further destroy your population.

White people: not even once

[–] Horsecook@sh.itjust.works 12 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Famed Indian Squanto, the one that taught the Pilgrims how to farm, did so partly because he was the last remaining member of the tribe from the abandoned village that the Pilgrims set up in. And partly because he spoke English, having just come back after living in England.

The first Indian the Pilgrims met was Samoset, who greeted them “Welcome, Englishmen” in English, which he’d learned from fishermen. He came to ask for beer. He later introduced the Pilgrims to Squanto.

[–] A_Union_of_Kobolds@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago

I knew i was forgetting some details, thanks

[–] rumschlumpel@feddit.org 9 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

which was actively decimating the region’s population.

Fun fact: Being decimated means that 10% die, and originally, it's a punishment that the 90% are forced to carry out against their comrades. Pretty sure that's a lot less bad than what the native americans suffered.

[–] A_Union_of_Kobolds@lemmy.world 10 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I was obviously using the figurative definition but yes that is the etymology.

[–] rumschlumpel@feddit.org -2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (5 children)

The figurative definition is about as stupid as saying "literally" when it's not literal IMO.

[–] PugJesus@piefed.social 10 points 4 months ago (1 children)
[–] rumschlumpel@feddit.org 4 points 4 months ago

chops off your lower right leg while sobbing

[–] idiomaddict@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago

Yes, not stupid at all!

[–] Rachelhazideas@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)
[–] rumschlumpel@feddit.org 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

What if it's fucking stupid, though?

[–] Rachelhazideas@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago

Language makes stupid chances because people can be stupid, but that's okay. It doesn't make the intent of what is said any less genuine.

You sound like the French government in how they love to gatekeep the language and reject colloquialisms.

[–] deltaspawn0040@lemmy.zip 1 points 4 months ago

If you want exact syntax free of cultural influence stop speaking English and make up your own language.

[–] the_mighty_kracken@lemmy.world 16 points 4 months ago

Not so good for the actor who voiced that native character.

[–] vrek@programming.dev 13 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Actually they had peace for about 50 years...

[–] otacon239@lemmy.world 8 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I guess it’s the thought that counts

[–] vrek@programming.dev 7 points 4 months ago (1 children)

It still sucked and is a disgrace. But they probably have more than 1 Thanksgiving. Then again I wouldn't be surprised if it actually only started in the mid 1800s and they attached a story to it....

[–] thespcicifcocean@lemmy.world 5 points 4 months ago (1 children)

According to my skim of the Wikipedia page, first Thanksgiving in the us was in 1619 or something. But was more of a religious thing about giving thanks than a feast

[–] vrek@programming.dev 1 points 4 months ago

Yeah but was it a yearly tradition or they did it once then...

[–] Dialectical_Specialist@quokk.au 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

wait are those like flair tags for the time periods? That is the dopest feature I didn't even know I wanted!

[–] PugJesus@piefed.social 5 points 4 months ago

Yep! Piefed had the option, so I went and set up flairs for people who want to check the Archive(tm) for a certain historical period!

[–] UltraMagnus0001@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago

Similar to Australia or all the places that Colinization happened. Also all of our wars can be blamed on the British cutting up the countries we have today..