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THE POLICE PROBLEM

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    The police problem is that police are policed by the police. Cops are accountable only to other cops, which is no accountability at all.

    99.9999% of police brutality, corruption, and misconduct is never investigated, never punished, never makes the news, so it's not on this page.

    When cops are caught breaking the law, they're investigated by other cops. Details are kept quiet, the officers' names are withheld from public knowledge, and what info is eventually released is only what police choose to release — often nothing at all.

    When police are fired — which is all too rare — they leave with 'law enforcement experience' and can easily find work in another police department nearby. It's called "Wandering Cops."

    When police testify under oath, they lie so frequently that cops themselves have a joking term for it: "testilying." Yet it's almost unheard of for police to be punished or prosecuted for perjury.

    Cops can and do get away with lawlessness, because cops protect other cops. If they don't, they aren't cops for long.

    The legal doctrine of "qualified immunity" renders police officers invulnerable to lawsuits for almost anything they do. In practice, getting past 'qualified immunity' is so unlikely, it makes headlines when it happens.

    All this is a path to a police state.

    In a free society, police must always be under serious and skeptical public oversight, with non-cops and non-cronies in charge, issuing genuine punishment when warranted.

    Police who break the law must be prosecuted like anyone else, promptly fired if guilty, and barred from ever working in law-enforcement again.

    That's the solution.

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Our definition of ‘cops’ is broad, and includes prison guards, probation officers, shitty DAs and judges, etc — anyone who has the authority to fuck over people’s lives, with minimal or no oversight.

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ALLIES

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r/ACAB

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Randy Balko

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Identity Project

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INFO

A demonstrator's guide to understanding riot munitions

Adultification

Cops aren't supposed to be smart

Don't talk to the police.

Killings by law enforcement in Canada

Killings by law enforcement in the United Kingdom

Killings by law enforcement in the United States

Know your rights: Filming the police

Three words. 70 cases. The tragic history of 'I can’t breathe' (as of 2020)

Police aren't primarily about helping you or solving crimes.

Police lie under oath, a lot

Police spin: An object lesson in Copspeak

Police unions and arbitrators keep abusive cops on the street

Shielded from Justice: Police Brutality and Accountability in the United States

So you wanna be a cop?

When the police knock on your door

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A new transparency feature on X has ignited a political firestorm after screenshots circulated online claiming the US Department of Homeland Security's official account was listed as being based in Israel. The tool, which appeared over the weekend, lets users view an account's current or previous location by tapping the join-date field. While designed to expose foreign-run troll farms, many of which masquerade as American political voices, it instead triggered a wave of speculation about high-profile accounts, including a series of MAGA-branded profiles that appeared to originate from Eastern Europe, Asia and Africa.

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[–] bytesonbike@discuss.online 85 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Offshoring is so bad, even the DEPARTMENT of HOMELAND SECURITY has to use workers in other countries.

[–] galoisghost@aussie.zone 30 points 3 weeks ago

Ridiculous right! Surely there’s a junior in Israel who could do a better job than Kristi Norm

[–] Live_your_lives@lemmy.world 16 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

There hasn't been any independently verified evidence of this so far.

[–] treadful@lemmy.zip 31 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Though I haven't seen any denials, either.

[–] Live_your_lives@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

The DHS itself and Nikita Bier, a bigwig at X, have made posts on X denying it. But obviously they aren't the most trustworthy bunch to use in this case, hence the desire for independent verification.

[–] TheReturnOfPEB@reddthat.com 12 points 3 weeks ago

What would convince you ?

[–] IronBird@lemmy.world 8 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

they dont need to literally run DHS/other social media accounts when it's immediately obvious to anyone with functioning CTS's that they own all major US/western media appartuses. refusing to acknowledge genocide is pretty obvious tell

[–] I_Has_A_Hat@lemmy.world 13 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (2 children)

I'm instantly blackballing any site that fails to mention both right and left profiles were from other countries. It's insane. Because of this yellow journalism, people on right leaning websites think it was only liberal accounts that were foreign and people on left leaning websites think it was only conservative accounts.

It was both. If any time over the past 3-4 years, you saw a tweet that got you riled up, that got you furious at the other side, that made you so upset you couldn't function for the rest of the day; you were likely reading something from a troll farm in Russia or Africa.

That's what we should be talking about. Instead, we are focused at laughing at the other side for not realizing their house is on fire, while our own house is also up in flames.

[–] anarchiddy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Do you have any examples of high-profile left-leaning accounts that were showing overseas locations?

[–] I_Has_A_Hat@lemmy.world 6 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

#Proud_Democrat was found to be from Kenya.

While it's more anti-MAGA than strictly left-leaning, #republicansagainsttrump was found to be from Austria.

[–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 5 points 3 weeks ago

Just like other both sides arguments, when you look at the real problems they are really just caused by 1 side.

[–] RestrictedAccount@lemmy.world 5 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I read where Musk already nerfed this feature

[–] PapaSkwat@lemmings.world -1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Not yet. It's still showing on my account.

[–] RestrictedAccount@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Thanks for the update.

Sorry you are going to get downvoted for admitting that you still use xitter

[–] PapaSkwat@lemmings.world -2 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

I only use it because my fav bands that I follow are on there , and my local news team is on it.

[–] ctdir@lemmy.zip 3 points 3 weeks ago

Since astroturf ist a hot topic again, I'm wondering what percentage of polarizing communication is done by such destabelizing agents in Germany.

[–] zakobjoa@lemmy.world -4 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)
[–] BeardedBlaze@lemmy.world 16 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

They've made no determination in that link.

[–] kbobabob@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Snopes? I thought that became unreliable years ago.

[–] frunch@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago

Better check Snopes to verify the truthfulness of that statement! 🫠