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[–] tornavish@lemmy.cafe 46 points 1 month ago (5 children)

I’m not sure how this has to do with capitalism

[–] tuff_wizard@aussie.zone 27 points 1 month ago (7 children)

capitalism, or at least the flavour we enjoy in “the west”, needs continued increases in profit and growth or baby Jesus will cry or something.

The easiest way to do that is by increasing population. Most of the countries that have actually benefited from capitalism over the last 80 years are now seeing declining populations (or at least working populations) as the desperation to funnel wealth upwards makes the idea of starting a family unpalatable.

This is why “wealthy” capitalist counties are all importing migrants at unprecedented rates. However this upsets the nationalism that goes hand in hand with exploitative capitalism as they don’t want to “lose their country” to the very people propping it up.

The next logical step is brain dead baby makers.

[–] tornavish@lemmy.cafe 3 points 1 month ago

It’s a weak joke. They should have mentioned selling the womb, which is definitely not implied. Low effort tankie bs

[–] GuyLivingHere@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 month ago

"The next logical step is brain dead baby makers"

I thought those were conservatives

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[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 18 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] tornavish@lemmy.cafe 5 points 1 month ago

Gotcha. Sometimes I forget 😅

[–] redsand@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 1 month ago (9 children)

I think the connection they're going for is this is the kind of hair brained distopian bullshit that eventually comes trying to achieve "infinite growth"in a finite world.

[–] RaivoKulli@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Well it's not like socialist countries don't need growth to achieve their goals and that growth needs new workers

[–] tuff_wizard@aussie.zone 2 points 1 month ago (6 children)

I think the implication is that in a socialist/communist utopia there would be no need for continual growth. their only goals would be to make their populations comfortable and I guess further the arts/technology.

Obviously one or two non capitalist countries need to try and grow at the same rate as their capitalist neighbours so they can try and fend off the “democracy” that capitalist countries so often like to bestow on non-capitalist and/or oilfield owning countries.

How those types of societies would operate when not trying to compete with aggressive capitalism is unknown. No doubt human nature would take its course and we’d be back here in 50 years or so.

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[–] you_are_dust@lemmy.world 14 points 1 month ago

This is part of the plot of Death Stranding. We're gonna have oil ghosts soon.

[–] MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca 11 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Yes, sure, and cannibalism solves overpopulation and starvation in one easy step....

Doesn't make it a good idea.

[–] Noodle07@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Eating the rich sure looks tempting

[–] MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Naww. Let's mulch them, make good food from their otherwise useless bodies.

[–] Noodle07@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

Good meat going to waste, it got all that plastic in it ! Yummy

[–] LavaPlanet@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 month ago

It's terrifying how many comments seems to be supporting this terrifying suggestion as a viable option. For anyone wondering. Thing is, if a brain is dead, the body starts to rot, a lot of the functions your brain does, keep the body not rotting. When your brain dies and your body starts rotting, medicine can hit your corpse with some hard drugs to delay the rot a little, but they're not compatible with growing a fertilised egg to maturity. What the absolute fuck.

[–] Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Honestly don't have a problem with this if there was prior consent in a living will. I could see a lot of people willing to sign up for this.

[–] Jankatarch@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Honestly main unethical part is that there are the alternatives "making it cheaper to raise children" or "needing less households where both parents have to work full-time" yet we debate this.

[–] agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 month ago

My name is Buck, something something

[–] billwashere@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Why does this sound like Death Stranding…

[–] Sv443@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 month ago

Time to move into a lone shelter in the woods and wait until all cities randomly explode

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[–] TootSweet@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago

Yes, Alotl tanks are the endstate of capitalism.

[–] Rusty@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 month ago
[–] Goretantath@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

Suggests? They literally did that already.

[–] eestileib@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 1 month ago

Feels really good to be infertile right about now

[–] Sunshine@piefed.ca 3 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Lower the cost of IVF not this buffoonery.

[–] Artisian@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

IVF helps a subset of the folks that this would help; not everybody has a spare uterus lying around.

[–] Gladaed@feddit.org 3 points 1 month ago

Pretty sure the cost of IVF is not due to malice but actual costs. Just cutting prices might not work in reality.

[–] SlartyBartFast@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I think they did that in one of the Dune spinoffs

[–] cv_octavio@piefed.ca 3 points 1 month ago

This is sort or a Frank Herbert trope actually. You might be thinking of Hellstrom's Hive, in particular "reproductive stumps".

As Gandalf said, it is grim reading.

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[–] axEl7fB5@lemmy.cafe 2 points 1 month ago

O brave new world

[–] stray@pawb.social 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Why make worthless babies when we can use them to manufacture spice?

[–] weariedfae@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 month ago

This guy gets it.

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