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Would that not piss of Jesus? It came to me after watching the pope rap from WKUK.

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[–] LuxSpark@lemmy.cafe 5 points 3 days ago

How do they explain? Some variation on God spoke to me.

[–] pixxelkick@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Naw.

For context at this time the Jewish people were under strict roman rule and oppression, treated as second class citizens. And a lot of Jewish folks had stopped giving a fuck about respecting their own culture/religion.

Jesus shows up to this huge, extremely sanctious, temple. It's not just any temple, its one of THE temples for Jewish worship.

Inside he finds that the romans+Jewish merchants have pretty much turned it into an animal pen + marketplace. It's filthy, there's animals shitting all over, there's people doing business, people are being extremely disrespectful.

So yeah Jesus goes apeshit and starts flipping tables, chasing ppl out of the temple, whipping people and animals, basically being like "all you assholes gtfo how dare you"

It's less about the money stuff and more about the donkeys actively shitting on the floor and ppl spitting on the temple.

Contextually its likely people were doing stuff like pissing on the wall (no bathroom in a makeshit marketplace, what do you think would happen), graffiti'ing, spitting, throwing garbage on the floor, so on and so on.

Now, originally, this business made sense. Specifically, pilgrims traveling a long distance needed to stop for some key stuff on arrival.

Pilgrims needed animals and approved currency for sacrifices, which they'd do at the temple, so setting up to do that stuff right at the temple made sense.

But what happened is a simple lil currency exchange + buy a sacrifice stall exploded to be a whole marketplace as seedier and more sus ppl moved in, and soon the original point was lost.

It probably originally just started as one guy just exchanging coins and selling goats/chickens outside the temple as a legit business.

As further insult/context, consider the fact that once they moved this process to be in the temple, it meant they were controlling people's access to worship.

Effectively it became a state of "you have to pay to pray" at the temple, and not a tithe, but more like literally having to pay a bunch of money to even get the right coins, the approved animals, etc.

You couldn't bring your own stuff now.

You know how movie theaters wouldn't let you bring in your own food, and would charge you an arm and a leg for anything? Yeah, think of it like that.

[–] tiredofsametab@fedia.io 2 points 3 days ago

Assume that this is an apocalyptic Jew before rabbinic judaeism. That should frame thinks a bit better. The problem, at least as I understand it, is people doing commerce, particularly for a profit, in a sacred space. I do t think the money was the problem in and of itself, but rather the execution and motive. In another story, biblical Jesus tells someone of wealth and power that what he needs to do is give all of that up and he was quite miffed (in a very tldr telling)

[–] jpablo68@infosec.pub 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Pretty much, even though its voluntary, and that is why I don't give any money (I'm catholic BTW)

[–] Patnou@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago

Thank you look up WKUK pope rap if you want a little bit of ribbing.

[–] AreaKode@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago

The pastor never reads that passage. His job is to make people feel better about themselves and to enrich the church! If people start feeling bad about themselves, they'll stop coming!

And don't ask about why people don't read the bible. That sounds hard...

[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip -1 points 3 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Not at all?

Edit: they don't explain at all.

[–] DreamAccountant@lemmy.world 0 points 3 days ago (2 children)

It's all fiction. None of it is real. The character jesus was not a real person, and he didn't have superpowers.

Stop writing stupid fictional jebus fanfiction in your head. Find better, less hate filled, fiction.

[–] Chozo@fedia.io 6 points 3 days ago (2 children)

The character jesus was not a real person

I think it's generally accepted that Jesus did exist, as his baptism and crucifixion were documented by third parties at the time.

[–] Manjushri@piefed.social 6 points 3 days ago (1 children)

All that means is that a person named Jesus may have existed. But that has no bearing on events described in the Bible. It's like saying you found a birth certificate for a Clark Kent from the 1930's so that means Superman really existed.

[–] nondescripthandle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Well if Superman modeled itself as a true story and the Clark Kent you found was the person who inspired the story then yeah you did. It's not Clarks fault the author lied. Historians don't only think 'some dude name jesus exists'. They think that the specific Jesus depicted in the bible was based on a real person. You can be against religion and recognize a historical consensus.

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 2 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

The Jesus of history is not necessarily the same guy they wrote about. All that is known for sure is that someone named Jesus, who came from Nazareth, existed around the same time. Absolutely nothing else is linked to the name.

Also, everything that makes up the bible was written several years after that man's life.

Historians also agree on his baptism and execution, not simply his birth.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 1 points 3 days ago

No no you see it's only Science TM if they can use it to shit on Christians.

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[–] TabbsTheBat@pawb.social 0 points 3 days ago

The difference is that the church doesn't give you anything in return for the money unlike the traders /j

But seriously, much like everything else in the bible, those verses get ignored when inconvenient

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