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The best one I've ever heard is they like the Microsoft wallpapers. Yes i told them you can use them on linux too. But they argued with me that they wouldn't be compatible.

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[–] Pika@sh.itjust.works 37 points 2 days ago (2 children)

My grandfather's reason for it. "It will be too different from my current system"

... the only thing he does is the web browser, and bookworm deluxe which i have confirmed does work via wine. I was recommending him install an OS called q4os, which I have on my laptop, I showed him the side by side comparison of q4os vs windows. For a point of reference this is what q4os looks like a desktop interface of q4OS that is similar to windows XP or 7 in design

I think he is too scared of change.

[–] livingcoder@programming.dev 17 points 2 days ago (5 children)

I still don't know how Wine works and I'm a Linux advocate.

[–] olafurp@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It's pretty simple actually. Mine runs the program as it would normally and whenever the program reaches out to say "create this file" or "load this font" for example Wine will grab that call and translate it into a Linux OS command. As long as the program gets all their Windows API calls and windows specific files requests satisfied it will happily continue.

This is why ARM support is such a hassle for wine since the processor is with a different architecture so the compiled binary needs to be translated as well with all the nuances.

[–] Minnels@lemmy.zip 4 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I have never managed to get any exe to start with wine and god i have tried. I have no idea why it never works but a menu comes up and i can choose a lot of stuff, nothing in there works so i have just given up. Putting things and run through steam is stupid but works so i just run everything through steam 😂 Wish I didn't have to.

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[–] Pika@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 days ago

yea but he wouldn't need to handle that, I do all his setup, he just has to click the shortcut that opens the game just like he does currently.

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[–] blinfabian@feddit.nl 6 points 2 days ago

my parents were open to try it, and theyre still happy they didnt have to buy a new win11 laptop

[–] mybuttnolie@sopuli.xyz 13 points 2 days ago (1 children)

the dumbest reason was that they hate penquins, but the one you can't argue with is that they don't need to because it does all they need it to do

[–] orbituary@lemmy.dbzer0.com 40 points 2 days ago

Devil's advocate here. When people complain about phone calls, or going out in public, or being social, I think "it's not hard." I know for some people it is a massive hassle.

Apply that same sentiment to having to learn an OS that is irrelevant to your job or seems difficult or you're not interested in.

[–] furycd001@lemmy.ml 10 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (5 children)

Sometime around 2004, I somehow managed to get a friend to try Linux. They spent an entire weekend compiling a custom kernel just to run some experimental beta driver that might have made Doom 3 somewhat playable on their system. Everything compiled just fine, but whenever they booted up the system, they discovered they had forgotten to re-enable sound support. A recompile fixed that, but performance wasn't what they were expecting. I think they got like 15fps or something like that. After a few weeks of using Linux they reinstalled win-xp....

[–] mko@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Recompiling and replacing libraries was a thing back then - linux had it’s own flavor of ”DLL hell”. I broke a Debian install trying to get an IDE for Mono running by overriding and replacing quite a lot of shared libraries.

That being said I didn’t fully know what I was doing when I started off and the package manager kept warning me.

[–] furycd001@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 day ago

Everyone has to start somewhere....

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[–] kosama@socel.net 11 points 2 days ago (2 children)

@lordnikon They say "I don't want to code to download an app", but there's actual app stores now on many of the most popular distros.

[–] Infrapink@thebrainbin.org 9 points 2 days ago

Linux and BSD had package managers before Mac did!

[–] SlurpingPus@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

TBF I for one want to code to install an app. By which I mean use Ansible.

[–] HouseWolf@pawb.social 19 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

A surprising amount of people have put up this mental wall separating "SteamOS" from Linux.

I've had this conversation with multiple people and it's being brought up again because of the Steam Machine announcement.

Some (very few) legitimately didn't know SteamOS was a Linux distro, Or they knew it was based on Linux but thought it used a whole different user ecosystem. Like how Android is technically Linux but using it is nothing like using desktop Linux. These people I've found are more willing to actually look into Linux after someone's explained to them that SteamOS is just Linux. And that there's even SteamOS-like Linux distros you can use right now!

Then you have those who are hard-line about having Official SteamOS. And most of the time they have some misguided believe along the line of, SteamOS is Linux but Valve has fixed all the "Linux issues". And for a lot of them you're probably not going to get far convincing them that mainline Linux isn't just endless command lines these days.

[–] ganymede@lemmy.ml 15 points 2 days ago

for alot of people their relationship with windows is like that of an abusive partner. which is why you see alot of the same excuses pop up

[–] SrMono@feddit.org 13 points 2 days ago (1 children)

In my experience, there are no silly reasons. Most people tend to stick to what they’re familiar with and not to experiment. And that is just fine.

On the other hand there are also other people eager to learn something new. Take your time and invest your energy in them. Show them around. It is a win:win.

[–] 123@programming.dev 4 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

On the other hand, there are people wasting our time (relatives) and have no data in the machine which is a glorified browser.

For them I installed Linux mint, left a 200x200 Firefox icon on the desktop (which they already used) and called it a day.

If they accidentally hit the mute button on the YouTube page, that was going to happen regardless and I'll get to it when I get to it next time I visit (if I have time). It's kind of amazing how they can resolve it themselves when you don't solve the issue for them quickly.

Edit: my point was: their desire doe no change does not come before my desire to have an up to date secure OS for them to use (even of it's just YT browsing)

[–] tidderuuf@lemmy.world 12 points 2 days ago (4 children)

Some dude just posted that he's not going to Linux because he can't play Rust on it...

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