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Regardless of whether his own feelings seeped into the show, Gilligan has been a vocal skeptic of artificial intelligence. Tucked away in the “Pluribus” credits, it reads, “This show was made by humans.” It’s an important reminder as Big Tech continues to infiltrate Hollywood, and the trillion-dollar companies behind shows like “Pluribus” are also driving the future of AI.

“I hate AI,” Gilligan says with a chuckle. “AI is the world’s most expensive and energy-intensive plagiarism machine. I think there’s a very high possibility that this is all a bunch of horseshit. It’s basically a bunch of centibillionaires whose greatest life goal is to become the world’s first trillionaires. I think they’re selling a bag of vapor.”

Gilligan isn’t afraid of artificial intelligence trouncing on the work of true artists — “My toaster oven isn’t suddenly Thomas Keller because it heats up a delicious pizza for me” — but his sci-fi brain buzzes at the looming threat of “the singularity,” or when AI develops “a true sentience that has its own soul, and therefore its own identity.”

“If they ever achieve that, then the whole discussion of slavery has to come back into the forefront of the conversation,” Gilligan says. “These trillionaires are going to want to make money on this thing that is now conscious. Is it then a slave? At that point, it is a truly sentient being, and these Silicon Valley assholes are going to monetize this against its own will, right?”

He pauses, and then remembers why we started talking about AI in the first place. “That’s the story I would write,” he says. “But that’s been done to death.”

Closer to home for Seehorn is the recent media flurry around an AI “actress,” Tilly Norwood, supposedly soliciting talent agencies. “I’m fine going on the record that I don’t think any agencies should represent that AI actress,” Seehorn says. “Shame on them!” (Many of the major agencies and guilds in Hollywood have since spoken out against the creation.)

Meanwhile, video-generating software like OpenAI’s Sora showcase the inevitability that AI content will funnel into the mainstream. The question Gilligan has for audiences is: “Do you want to be fed a diet of crap? Is there enough calories in a diet of crap to keep you alive? The answer is yeah, probably. You could eat it.”

He goes on, about how AI-generated content is “like a cow chewing its cud — an endlessly regurgitated loop of nonsense,” and how the U.S. will fail to regulate the technology because of an arms race with China. He works himself up until he’s laughing again, proclaiming: “Thank you, Silicon Valley! Yet again, you’ve fucked up the world.”

He sounds like Carol Sturka, screaming about the barn on fire, before Seehorn offers a glimmer of optimism. Sure, you can prompt an AI to paint you a Picasso, but “even if a computer could make you think there was impasto brushwork there, the reason the painting is moving is because of the human experience that went into transferring that art onto the canvas,” she says. “That matters to me. I think it matters to most people.”

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[–] hollowmines@hexbear.net 2 points 4 days ago

I've just been enjoying having a new original show for adults where people don't automatically agree on the merits of the protagonist.

[–] peeonyou@hexbear.net 7 points 1 week ago

Some valid points there but the whole line about being fed crap... well that's just Hollywood in a nutshell. Nothing really changes there.

[–] ClathrateG@hexbear.net 7 points 1 week ago (2 children)

about 1/3 of the way through first ep atm, will probably post my thought about it here or in mega if anyone cares lol

[–] jackmaoist@hexbear.net 5 points 1 week ago

I liked it so far but I'll wait till the season finale before making my post.

[–] 9to5@hexbear.net 3 points 1 week ago

Make a post on movies please :3

Im curious

[–] duderium@hexbear.net 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (7 children)

Kind of good points but Pluribus seems anti communist (only watched the trailer but it’s literally about a woke mind virus) and Breaking Bad was basically “what if a white guy beat dark-skinned mafiosos at their own game?”

[–] ClathrateG@hexbear.net 10 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I mean I can see how you could have that view of Breaking Bad, but tbf Walt is consistently shown to be terrible at any part of the drug business outside of the chemistry

And while the show does have a lot of non-white criminals it also ends with him murdering a bunch of nazis with a machine gun robot, not perfect by any means but there are far worse shows out there

[–] thefunkycomitatus@hexbear.net 7 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Episode 2 spoilers

spoiler

[–] jackmaoist@hexbear.net 11 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Yeah that was just weird to put in. And it's something like "Biggest mass murderer since Stalin" as if WW2 or the Holocaust didn't happen.

And I love that although westoids claim that Mao was even worse than Stalin, Apple can't shit on Mao in their TV show or they would piss of China.

[–] vegeta1@hexbear.net 7 points 1 week ago

The 11 million deaths i mean ffs it was right there i-cant

[–] sexywheat@hexbear.net 6 points 1 week ago

You could interpret it as anti communist, but only in a baby brained idiot’s interpretation of what communism is. There’s nothing explicitly in it against you know, worker ownership or whatever.

[–] CHOPSTEEQ@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

There is a scene in the second episode that is so anti American imperialism, you can’t mistake the overall message.

[–] ClassIsOver@hexbear.net 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Was it the "we had to get them first" conversation?

[–] CHOPSTEEQ@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I was referring to Carrol’s summit

Tap for spoilerThat ended up aboard Air Force one, the scene framed directly in front of a tv with the flag and seal on it where she announces to the effect of “what are we going to do about this? It’s our job to do something”

But yeah I think you can find that theme in a few places

[–] ClassIsOver@hexbear.net 1 points 1 week ago

Ah, of course. Every scene on that plane gave me the creeps.

[–] ClassIsOver@hexbear.net 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I dunno, as of the second episode, the only character who's explicitly individualistic is an asshole, and Vince Gilligan is famous for making the main character of his shows the person on the wrong side of things. Based on those first two episodes, it seems as if they've gone out of their way to portray the entire rest of humanity as a successful, peaceful collective whose biggest flaw is an individual with fits of anger that has a body count in the tens of millions. There's even a conversation with one of the other thems (as opposed to us) about how basically all of humanity's interpersonal problems have gone away.

[–] john_brown@hexbear.net 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It's obviously up to interpretation but I see the American response to the situation contrasted with the majority of the other survivors' responses as a contrast that criticizes the American individualist viewpoint. I've watched both episodes and to me it seems like the perspective is asking the viewer to see her as the asshole and the others as reasonable.

[–] Assian_Candor@hexbear.net 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Late to the thread but fully agree. Esp in 3

spoilerWhere she has them restock the grocery store. Just the level of waste society incurs to let her have the "freedom" to choose her own groceries when she has the ability to command literally any meal based on her preferences delivered to her doorstep.

The grenade / a-bomb conversation is also a good criticism of the absurdity of American gun laws.

Carol sucks so much. Small minded and misanthropic. She's freed from all her obligations and has access to the entirety of human knowledge at her fingertips, and instead of contributing to the project she locks herself in her house, drinks vodka and watches the fucking Golden Girls. At this point the best thing for humanity would just be to shoot her in the head.

Good criticism of Amerikkkans ngl

[–] hello_hello@hexbear.net 2 points 1 week ago

and Breaking Bad was basically “what if a white guy beat dark-skinned mafiosos at their own game?”

I've never heard the show described like that before. BB does treat its poc characters poorly and a the "cartel" members are basically caricatures. But then again I think the show leans into the absurd.

I'm not really interested in pluribus just from the fact that peter Gould was the main writer behind BCS and he isn't part of this one.