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I hate it here i cant stand it anymore literally almost everyone is an misanthropic orc with some kind of ranking of which kind of people are worth to live and which need to be bombed into civillazition by the "glorious democratic west". You cant even discuss genocide like the one happening in gaza with liberals here because they love their "both sides" so fucking much to the point where when you ask "is genocide bad?" they say to be in the grayzone. The west has no passion, no humanity left. The propaganda is so thick and it is everywhere not only on screens but in the air we breath it has become part of us. 90perent of the people here dont care about the genocide happening in Gaza or openly support it...the 10 percent are mostly immigrants and some westerners who have achieved to escape this dystopian propaganda campaign. Somebody needs to bomb this place. There is no way around it, we western leftists dont have and will not have enough popular support for our own revolutions. Please president Xi Jinping, export the evolution and bomb us, i dont even care about dying...i will simply wrap myself in my USSR flag and peacefully explode to pieces knowing that what comes after cannot be worse than what we had before and that the people are finally truly free, not only my but the people of the entire world.

Dear Xi Jinping, bomb the west, we need it, we deserve it and it would do a favor to the entire world honestly.

thank you for coming to my TED talk.

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[-] simply_surprise@lemmygrad.ml 50 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

The revolution can't come to the West until the empire has fallen, and until the privileged position Western workers have (compared to the rest of the world) is no more.

I think it's been clearly shown that "liberating" a country doesn't allow for a stable socialist state.

The real revolution comes from within.

The empire is in the process of unraveling before our eyes.

Also, saying this:

Dear Xi Jinping, bomb the west, we need it, we deserve it and it would do a favor to the entire world honestly.

As if it's serious, on a new account, feels like atrocity bait so you can post about how awful the 'grad is.

[-] IronicallyInTheWest@lemmygrad.ml 22 points 10 months ago

Im not atrocitie baiting, this post isnt meant to be taken completly seriously. Yes i am being negative on the current situation in the west and all but when im begging for the chinese president to bomb us im just trying to be humoric. Im sorry if it isnt funny which it probably isnt as much as i hoped for but i can promise you that i am not here to "bait" and to post it on other platforms.

[-] simply_surprise@lemmygrad.ml 32 points 10 months ago

Ah, sorry!

We had a post yesterday where someone posted a comment as bait, then made a post about how awful Lemmygrad is for upvoting it.

My humor meter might just be off. Sorry for missing the joke!

[-] IronicallyInTheWest@lemmygrad.ml 17 points 10 months ago

Its ok, maybe my post seemed a little to much

[-] simply_surprise@lemmygrad.ml 14 points 10 months ago

Naw, I think you're ok!

[-] ImOnADiet@lemmygrad.ml 9 points 10 months ago

Also there was that weird burner account some lib sat on for 4 months before making a cringe post in asklemmy a few days ago

[-] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 3 points 10 months ago

Oh, was that shitty 10 principles "anarchist" just a burner?

[-] ImOnADiet@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Probably, the account im talking about was @Velociraptor@lemmygrad.ml that made the original post, did we get confirmation if the annoying 10 principles loser was the same person?

[-] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

No, it was just the only one I saw recently. Idk who is whose alt, though 10 principles guy was in that same thread, which I forgot

[-] simply_surprise@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 10 months ago

I forgot about that one! They do come out of the woodwork every so often.

[-] doccitrus@lemmygrad.ml 6 points 10 months ago

We had a post yesterday where someone posted a comment as bait, then made a post about how awful Lemmygrad is for upvoting it.

Missed this. Link?

[-] simply_surprise@lemmygrad.ml 8 points 10 months ago

I think they deleted it before the ban, this is the modlog:

[-] QueerCommie@lemmygrad.ml 33 points 10 months ago

Exporting revolution does not work. We will have to do it ourselves. Luckily, (the accelerationist in me) there’s no need for bombs. We’re pretty much fucked no matter what with how it’s going. Material conditions are compelling us toward a battle of domestic fascism or socialism, and fascism is not very stable, especially surrounded by global enemies. What we need to do is organize so we can be ready to take advantage and things inevitably get worse.

[-] RedClouds@lemmygrad.ml 24 points 10 months ago

I completely understand your perspective, finding places like lemmygrad help me see that there are other people in the world who feel the same way. And take it from me, a liberal-left convert to communism, people can change, but they need to see the error of their ways themselves. I hate talking to libs at the mement, all they wanna do is talk petty bourgeois crap. But I hope it gets better.

[-] ButtigiegMineralMap@lemmygrad.ml 21 points 10 months ago

Fr, had a convo w coworker and they are pretty accepting of all lefty stuff but believe everything about China and DPRK. Like for some reason our government is bad but it’s democratic…but its better than the evil place where people like living there and it somehow is not democratic… and so that’s why the CIA probably isn’t lying about them even though they are propaganda when it comes to domestic issues? It takes some real brain twisting to get to that perspective and it’s amazingly common here in the States

[-] Giyuu@lemmygrad.ml 8 points 10 months ago

Yeah it's awful. Every time I hear coworker speak about "protecting democracy" I just laugh internally.

[-] Henkire@lemmygrad.ml 16 points 10 months ago

One day Australia will have a communist revolution. Australia closer to being able to achieve this then America. With China's help and support THE DOWN UNDER WILL GO RED

[-] GrainEater@lemmygrad.ml 9 points 10 months ago

hopefully a revolution of the decolonial variety

[-] Henkire@lemmygrad.ml 6 points 10 months ago

Yes of course!

[-] Adkml@hexbear.net 14 points 10 months ago

Unfortunately China has us exactly where they want us.

We've made ignoring climate change and as an extension any kind of forward progress so ingrained in our culture China is easily lapping us in terms of socioeconomic advances.

In 20 years well be the ones dependant on Chinese manufacturing and China would rather have us with no choice than to continue to buy their shit as our global influence declines because we're still setting up our society like it's the 1980s.

Helping us help ourselves would literally be against their national interests.

[-] Oberlander@startrek.website 10 points 10 months ago

Stumbled upon this thread. Is this how most of lemmygrad.ml feels?

[-] bennieandthez@lemmygrad.ml 35 points 10 months ago

Its obviously a shitpost, rant, whatever. Begging Xi to liberate the west is just following up the mainstream media narrative that China wants to wage war, yare yare. Some find it funny, i myself dont.

Also it is pretty dumb to ask if if this is how we ALL think, as if this is some kind of monolithic group of people. While all of the members are left-leaning, not everyone is actually marxist-leninist, each and every member is at their own stage of learning and struggling with their own contradictions.

[-] IronicallyInTheWest@lemmygrad.ml 25 points 10 months ago

im sorry if i am further spreading this narrative, i didnt mean to. This was supposed to be a shitpost with the whole "begging Xi to bomb us" but it seems to be more serious than that. I apologize

[-] simply_surprise@lemmygrad.ml 25 points 10 months ago

You'll see most of the lines in this shared in jokes or memes, but no one in the 'grad seriously thinks that China is interested in attacking the U$, or directly wants the death of innocent colonized people that would entail.

The general sentiment, that the political entity of the U$ needs to be fully destroyed, and that Westerners are incredibly blinded by propaganda, is largely shared here.

If you're not interested in seeing stuff from the grad, you should be able to block the few communities we post in pretty easily.

[-] frauddogg@lemmygrad.ml 21 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

I have literally zero faith in the settler majority. I'd sooner believe y'all will go straight-up fascist before (with a major 'if' appended) you'll ever, ever take a truly progressive or egalitarian turn. I believe y'all would sooner kill your subjects-of-empire before y'all would ever liberate them. If I had the mass amounts of liquid resources necessary, I'd seek political asylum elsewhere. Y'all are lost causes to me, and I see nothing to be gained from putting my life on the line for those who'd never do the same for me.

[-] knfrmity@lemmygrad.ml 21 points 10 months ago

Maybe not so doom and gloom, but in general I think I can safely say that we agree with the broad point of this post. The west is so fully up its own ass and desperately needs a revolution, yes. I don't think that revolution can come from externally though. It'll be a long slow process, with the exploited periphery gradually liberating itself and the borders of the empire gradually contracting.

[-] IronicallyInTheWest@lemmygrad.ml 20 points 10 months ago

depends but from what i can say....most of it i guess

this thread was made by the doomer western leftist gang

[-] RedClouds@lemmygrad.ml 19 points 10 months ago

Yes and no. I think most people on lemmygrad have at least gone though a doom and gloom phase at one point, at least for us converts (Came from left liberalism, found communism, made a lot of sense to me when I broke through the propaganda bullshit, but felt like I hit a wall because anti-communism is so effective in the west).

If you stick around you will find a lot of good discussion with nuance, thought provoking ideas, and possibilities for positive change. But yeah, it's harder to do that than to just look at the world with disgust.

[-] Omega_Haxors@lemmy.ml 6 points 10 months ago

I'm going to go out on a limb and say nobody wants to die in nuclear fire.

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[-] Omega_Haxors@lemmy.ml 10 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

I feel this. I went dating for awhile and everyone's either an open-and-proud fascist or a secretly-fascist liberal. I hate it here so fucking much but I can't move because rent is through the fucking roof. As soon as I get the chance to, i'm going to leave and i'm never going to come back.

[-] IronicallyInTheWest@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 10 months ago

i personally think that western leftists have the responsibility to help the communist cause in the countries they live in even if a revolution is highly unlikely...somebody needs to do the dirty work and if every leftist from the west would immigrate to another country than the chances of socialism will go from 0,01% to a straight zero. It is hell here i agree but i wont use my western privilege to immigrate to Vietnam and abandon the socialists in the west just because i personally cant stand the current politics and want to immediately live under socialism. That although is my opinion and if you really want to live elsewhere i wish you all the best and that you will soon have the possibility to do so.

[-] Omega_Haxors@lemmy.ml 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

My desires and the reality are two different things, I realize that. I'm needed where I live and having to deal with everyone being a nazi is just the penance I gotta put up with for living in a colonizer country where I get huge advantages just for existing. Socialism isn't overnight.

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