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submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by leo_da_vinci@lemmygrad.ml to c/genzedong@lemmygrad.ml

I heard in an analysis by Pepe Escobar (in Portuguese) that Nazisrael is destroying Gaza's North and removing Palestinians from there because of the fossil fuel resources that exist there. As I understood, supposedly they want to divide Gaza on a line that coincides exactly with the southern border of a gas reserve found in Gaza (not sure if he said gas or oil). Nazisrael would export this gas to Europe, supporting Warmerican plan to have a response to China's BRI which would include Nazisrael, the "Middle East", Europe and India.

Edit: what I wrote suggests that they are doing this only for the gas reserves. But that was not my intention; while I was writting I forgot to make some changes. To be more accurate, the hypothesis is that Israel decided to run the operation and chose to prioritize the occupation of the Gaza's North having as one of the main motivations the gas reserve. Also, as you pointed out, it's off the coast, so "line that coincides exactly with the southern border" is also not very accurate.

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[-] D3FNC@hexbear.net 17 points 1 year ago

I think it's adorable people feel the need to invent, or substitute economic reasons for Israel wanting to kill everyone in Gaza rather than try come to terms with understanding how deep their awful culture of mindless, blind hatred truly goes

[-] queermunist@lemmy.ml 25 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Their awful culture of mindless, blind hatred does have economic reasons that make them want to kill everyone. It's not like Israelis just decided to hate Palestinians - hatred is a cultural tool that makes settler-colonialism semi-sustainable. If they didn't hate, stealing land and resources would create unrest in Israeli society. They need to hate the colonized in order to colonize in the first place.

Though reducing it down to gas reserves overlooks the many other economic factors involved in the genocide. That's just vulgar materialism, focusing on productive forces and ignoring reproductive forces etc etc

[-] quarrk@hexbear.net 10 points 1 year ago

I think Pepe would agree with you. There is no single cause or reason, it is just one of many, in the broader geopolitical picture he paints in the video.

[-] Blursty@lemmygrad.ml 12 points 1 year ago

Right? it's not as if they'd leave them alone if there was no oil or gas.

[-] supersolid_snake@lemmygrad.ml 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Both are true. Cleansing and having access to free land/ resources is an economic incentive. And if colonizers can tap into racism and hatred to make that happen, they will.

[-] LVL@lemmygrad.ml 11 points 1 year ago

Richard Medhurst talked about this before and recently. I tried to find the original video I saw but could only find his newer one talking about it here. But yes, while Israel would wipe Gaza off the map just for the land, they also want the natural gas off the coast of Gaza so they can build their pipeline to Europe.

[-] Blursty@lemmygrad.ml 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yeah it's just a bonus, they're not doing this because of the resources.

[-] Juice@hexbear.net 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

From what I understand, they already have access to it, so it's not that they want access, I think they want to prevent Lebanon from accessing it. Hezbollah kicked Israel's butt the last time they went to war, and since the second Intifada Palestinian militants have learned a lot of tactics from Hezbollah. But Lebanon is in crippling inflation, and they're desperate to access fuel.

So on top of the mindless killing, this is the first time Palestinians have the training and a lot of the equipment to fight back against Israel. The best scenario for Israel is to keep the Palestinians mostly alive but stuck in camps because they serve as a reserve army to maintain a standard of living for the colonists. But if the Palestinians have the will and the means to actually fight? That Israel's political justification for enacting a second Nakba on the Palestinians.

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