Show this to a liberal and they'll say ''B-but times have changed! Democracy works now!'' as if their democracy doesn’t still bow to corporations and the rich.
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You think so? I feel like faith in democracy™ is at an all time low among liberals too.
"Trust me bruh, just one more time"
Help me source the Greek critique of electoralism. Was it Plato?
Both plato and aristotle, but aristotle thought that any election-based state turned out in practice, to be an oligarchy or aristocracy, not a democracy (which he define as rule by the poor, with random selection by lot).
Aristotle's politics books 4-6 talk a lot about this:
It’s Plato but it also isn’t a critique.
Plato believed the general idea stated in the post, but he genuinely believed that that was a good thing because that meant he got to be powerful and maintain his influence.