It's almost mind-blowing how people still rely on Azure, Windows, and MS Office for really sensitive shit. Like, MS might as well be an arm of the US Government if they aren't already. All the foreign governments storing sensitive shit in Azure servers is just fucking wild to me. So what if the data centres are stored outside of the USA? The parent company is still the parent company.
this post was submitted on 21 Oct 2025
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I mean yeah. Trump could tomorrow make some idiotic statement about tariffs on American cloud services like aws. Seriously, who would be surprised?
Before Trump, nobody would even suggest to distance themselves from the USA. Now, everyone is thinking it.
Great job I guess, if you want a planet where countries are fighting eachother instead of working together. But Trump mentality is that he must be the winner, always. He cant understand that sometimes another country being winner also helps his own. He must be the winner.
He is the typical guy in the sandbox that takes the entire sandbox because its all about him.
Your comments are not wrong, but also Trump is not the sole issue here. There would still be a problem even if he was removed from office today.
Proprietary software and services are an issue regardless of which government jurisdiction they fall under. It's a good idea for the EU to be moving to open source instead of proprietary solutions based in the EU.
Yeah 100%. I just dont know if Europe can compete. There is no real European cloud with hundreds of services, and Linux in the enterprise world is much harder to administer than windows. Microsoft is good at selling their enterprise stuff.
I think all of that is going to put Europe behind. But maybe its good to get started. Perhaps that will actually lead to an entire market for making Linux as good as windows in the enterprise.
Windows is shit in the entreprise IMO.
It's not just Trump - there's a reason that Russia, Cuba, China, and North Korea have made moves to adopt Linux. The US has been seeking to weaponize their tech standards for a while, especially as their empire crumbles.
I think it wont crumble during our livetime. But the insane debt is going to make dollars worth less and less. Perhaps they switch to bitcoin... :)
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After so many decades of being reliant on US proprietary tech, now they're moving away to foss?!
Sounds excellent but I'll remain reluctant until I see wide scale adoption.
Someone else on this post made a huge comment about how Spain has been using lots of Open Source stuff for long time
Good! One can no longer trust the current US regime.
It seems like backend companies are ready for this, but today, what are the options for individual end users looking to escape google etc? Proton has a package with mail, storage, etc, murena for phones, nextcloud, opencloud, suite numerique, is the industry converging on any standards here like .odt for documents but for other standards and protocols?
Well, LibreOffice and other free office suites use by default .odt, but all are capable to open and export any other document format, even more than MSOffice is capable to do. In Spain since years administrations and companies are usin LibreOffice and OpenOffice without problems. Spain is one of the most advanced countries in the EU respect OpenSource-
Open Source Initiatives and Events in Spain
Spain has several notable open source initiatives and events spanning education, government, and industry:
Government Initiatives
The Galician government launched Mancomún in 2006 to promote free and open source software (FOSS), achieving significant cost savings by migrating public administration to LibreOffice and other open source tools[^9]. By 2018, the government completed migration of all workstations to open source productivity suites, reducing licensing costs by 50% (€1.7 million annually)[^9].
Major Events
Open Source Summit Europe takes place in Spain, with the 2023 event held in Bilbao from September 19-21[^8]. The summit brings together developers, technologists and community leaders to advance open source innovation[^8].
Education and Resources
Several Spanish-language open educational resources support learning:
- El Atareao (atareao.es), a Spanish blog focused on GNU/Linux and open source topics[^1]
- Español Abierto, a collection maintained by the University of Texas for Spanish language learners[^3]
- LibriVox's Spanish audiobook collection featuring public domain works[^3]
Business Adoption
Major companies recognize Spain's open source expertise. In 2016, Accenture acquired Spanish firm Tecnilógica to expand its open source capabilities, noting the company's skill in "using emerging and open source technologies"[^7].
[^1]: My Linux story: Covering open source in Spanish [^3]: 6 open educational resources for learning Spanish [^7]: Accenture Acquires Tecnilógica to Scale Its Open Source Digital Skills in Spain [^8]: Open Source Summit Europe (Bilbao, Spain) – Zephyr Project [^9]: Free & Open Source Software in Galicia, Spain: The Mancomún Project
Wow, Spain is way ahead of my country (Sweden), we have much to learn. Unfortunately our politicians are not the best at the moment, but hopefully in the future.
But steam isn’t open source? /s
Open steam sauce?
Nah.
Open sauce steam?
Smart, democratic.
While I wish there was an Open Source client, I can only imagine why Valve does not want that. First, it would help fakers and scammers too. Steam has a Scammer problem. Secondly, it could help the competition. At least an official API would go a long way, to enable the community to write their own Open Source client based on the API.
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I think that it don't mean the Steam website, but steam pressure.
/s stands for sarcasm in case you are not aware.
I like sarcasm, but if you don't know the people, it's not always clear that it was in this sense. With eg. the PP of Google there are no doubts with: Your privacy is very important for us.
The EU should also fulfill the double meaning of the headline and buy Valve corporation from Gabe Newell.
I don't begrudge Europe for doing this and they should absolutely keep going this direction but they are going to start sucking even more out of US users. Maybe it will help us move forward.
The good thing about open source is that it's open, so hopefully it will benefit everyone. Of course, hosting always cost money, but the tech itself isn't locking you in.
Right! Truly a rising tide kind of tech. When Facebook fully shifts from enshittification to fully enfuckified if more of the world is already on FOSS alts and supporting the software ecosystem people will have a meaningful alternative to jump to.
I don't understand
I assumed they were saying the companies need specific amounts of revenue to cover their debts and if they lose foreign revenue streams, they're going to make it up by increasing domestic prices.
Yes, this is what I meant.
Or just they make this much money so to continue making this amount they have to up prices somehow.
they are going to start sucking even more out of US users even more
:|
Maybe that EU kept MS&co in check?
That's not how I see it, but there was some minimal resistance.
Anyways, open sauce means tech giants are gonna illegally yoink the code, but slap some profit margins on (besides support that is).
That does sux the even more out of users.
They didn't necessarily keep them in check, but maybe kept growth slower Initially. However this is not my area, so take it with as much salt as you'd like.