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So, might seem dumb on my end, but I actually never heard of Gödel's loophole. Do you think he just predicted that a President could collude with Supreme Court and just rubberstamp everything or was it some 4d chess nonsense regarding constitutional convention/Article V or the ability to create new states?
What do you all think it is? I can also see nothingburger as it really didn't go anywhere, which seems odd considering the nature at the time.
The empire is eating itself
not saying you or anybody else here is doing it, but seeing even the self-identified "leftist" yankees scream blue murder over this is so funny lol. The people who live there have been destroying ancient cultural heritage sites longer than any of us here have been alive but sure, let's weep blood over a ballroom that's not even 100 years old getting bulldozed to build another, fancier ballroom.
I don't even think it's a "fancier ballroom". Most likely just an excuse so they can expand the Fuhrerbunker. 40 billion to Argentina I feel like is going to be a life-line incase the plan they have doesn't work. 
Tbh I am against this only because I think the White House should be a museum dedicated to the USA's history of colonialism & imperialism.
The Lincoln Memorial will be a museum for the USA's white supremacy.
The Capitol Building will be dedicated to the USA's history of capitalism.
The Washington Monument will be demolished and the stone used to build a statue of Fred Hampton in its place.
living through history hits different after being raised to believe history has ended
40 billion sent to Argentina and they're probably rebuilding the fuhrerbunker on the left side of the House and claiming it's a "ballroom". Will history rhyme?
It is starting to rhyme. There is a comrade that I follow in Red note that explained this with a poem from China:
The poem is old but it fits perfectly with the US knowing that there is an ongoing gov't shutdown and demand for food banks is increasing.
That's just one state. It gets crazier when you look at cities and realize with the cost of living MOST people rely on SNAP especially in some of the northern states. Things are going to get very dire when it comes to food.
Saw an ad for a funeral service and immediately thought they must be hedging their bets on an invasion of Venezuela happening and going very poorly.
So for as long as I can remember I dress how I wanted and did my own hobbies. Colorful or alternative clothing, being a open and accepting person, that kind of stuff. And I suffered a great deal of ridicule for it in my hometown, being called gay and whatnot.
So years go by and I continue to be me, you know. Dress in my own type of clothes, enjoy my coffee while reading a book outside, whatever. And after leaving my hometown and moving into the big city some years ago I finally felt like I found a place where I could do such things without facing homophobia.
Only now this whole 'aesthetic' has been hijacked by the performative male meme which is now, imo, turning into another form of homphobia (haha real men can't read books or wear flashy outfits by themselves, they must be acting to get laid!). It is reinforcing patriarchic views of what men can and cannot like. Men can't like stuff women happen to like without ulterior motives, or without being gay.
most people in the real world don't care about some mean, cynical meme discourse, just keep doing you and try not to let it get to you (which is admittedly easier said than done). rejecting toxic masculine posturing and being an open person sounds pretty based to me, for what that's worth!
My mom send me the vote suggestion she got based on a quiz she did for the Dutch elections and it is a split between D66 (neolib) and the Green/Labour fusion and she said that for the Greens she didn't really support their 'radical' side.
Mother in Christ what radical side
Hey, new to Lemmygrad, but if I have an account here, I can't post on hexbear, for example? Because I see some people with @hexbear.net posting here, but if I go there, I'm unable to. Or do I need to enable something somewhere?
You have to access the posts from Lemmygrad. You can use the "All" view, or visit specific communities (e.g. lemmygrad.ml/c/news@hexbear.net). You can also subscribe to communities and then use the "Subscribed" view.
Ah, gotcha, thanks!
The amount of alleged "Marxists" I've encountered who prefer vibes to materialism, lack basic reading comprehension, and prefer strawmen arguments over responding to what was actually written is really putting my revolutionary optimism to the test. Some comrades out there really need to learn how to process information before reacting to it.
I expect this shit from liberals but we're supposed to be better than this.
I agree. Too often people play with rhetoric or try to point out fallacies, taking "easy victories," rather than engaging with the most charitable reading of their points. It's a consistent problem I see. Same with comrades interacting with other comrades, I don't see it too often but sometimes I see struggle for the sake of struggle, rather than for unity and understanding.
This is why we have to build a vanguard party. Not all the working class can/will/need to understand dialectical materialism.
Vibes based Comrades can be safely kept out of the loop and called in at a moments notice. Your party needs to have a person who can harness vibes and direct those people where needed. That was what Lenin did with trosky.
Can you imagine the headaches involved in managing trostky?
Lenin was stronger than I to tolerate Trotsky ngl
hexbear cultural revolution when????
Lol what the actual fuck is going on hexbear. We're supposed to accept genocidal jackboots (some with nazi tattoos), apparently we're remaking the clean Wehrmacht myth with how "propaganda" affects those who join the military even though most military is middle-class and on a DPRK post you can see a "Yay, more bombs" tongue-in-cheek post!
This is literally all happening within the past like week.
More and more glad they banned me from their instance.
I'm also confused on why people go with the whole "Oooh I thought you were so cooool until now" and it's like, sorry, I'm not one particularly for para-social relationships online. Probably why I never got into streamers or any of those influencers.
Turns out Platner literally guarded the Abu Ghraib where he got his first combat experience. This keeps getting worse and worse lol
Remember! I'm emotional and lack analysis because of this! Now add in a random diatribe about a AES state and call it self-crit to complete the slop-chain.
Yeah, glad I stopped using Hexbear anywhere near as much a few months ago. Hell of a lot of idealism and supporting Yankee bullshit.
The change has been happening for over a year. This time last year the admin team was picking off/driving out quality power posters and while pulling in libs from blue sky and reddit. Remember when they tried to permaban Awoo? That was not a one off it was just them finding the limits of who they could purge in their quest to liberalize the community.
The rot always spreads from the top. And anti-imperialist sentiments are always the first thing to go.
Putting it that way makes sense.
I was driven out of there a month ago or so for similar reasons. There’s a problem with the mods, they defended Zionist arguments for years regarding the Israel emoji and banned anybody who brought it up.
I remember that. Civility policing. All too familiar.
yeah the discussion around vets is making me super uncomfortable there.
I think it's gross how you stating that it made you uncomfortable got you a downvote. Person can direct their ire at me all they want behind the block-wall, downvoting you for stating that is just gross.
Glad I blocked them.
Nazi bar
Ouch oof owie yowsah AAAAAAAAAAA
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Days without leftist infighting: 0. Dutch party Bij1 posted a video on Instagram about a cheese salesman and it got the vegans mad.
Now, as a vegan, I must say commies themselves like to stick their head in the sand on veganism as well.
The discourse on veganism inside leftist circles is too militant to result in anything productive. Include the whole „my pet gets a vegan diet too“ thing and watch the chaos unfold.
Veganism is clearly the theoretically correct position, it’s just one that’s very unpopular with the masses. It’s hard to square this circle