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The Nazis equivalent of Stephen Miller is Himmler. Goebbels was in charge of Propaganda, Himmler was in charge of the Final Solution.
There really isn't a member of the Trump administration who is the equivalent of Goebbels yet, but I've been referring to Stephen Miller as PeeWee Himmler since the first Trump administration.
JD Vance, who uses people like Charlie Kirk and other podcasters to spread propaganda.
Possible, but Goebbels tightly controlled the entire media, and we aren't there yet.
I have no doubt that they believe that the time will come when they will take full control of all media, and approve all productions, and someone will be in charge of that. The Ellisons just took control of Paramount/CBS, so they might eventually be candidates.
I'm not sure its possible to control media to the degree it was back then. Far easier to broadcast now.
They already do. Oligarchs/ Corporations control all the networks, most TV stations, most radio stations, most newspapers, many cable news outlets, etc.
There's a lot of self broadcasting now, its not directly tainted like the others. Its still not great out here though.
There really isn’t a member of the Trump administration who is the equivalent of Goebbels yet,
Putin and Bannon fit that description.
but I’ve been referring to Stephen Miller as PeeWee Himmler since the first Trump administration.
That's perfectly hilarious.
I've thought of Bannon as the MAGA Goebbels, but he isn't a very good fit. Goebbels actually controlled the propaganda machine, and while there is the remarkable and highly effective Conservative Propaganda Machine, it is fairly decentralized, with no single person in charge. Certainly it isn't directly operated by the Trump administration.
The closest might actually be Rupert Murdoch, but he doesn't work for the administration, and his propaganda isn't specifically American.
I don't think we have a Goebbels yet, but they may emerge when MAGA takes full control of the American media, and issues guidelines for productions.
Column A... Column B...
Of all the shit that's come out of this administration one of the few things I've enjoyed is seeing how vocal DeNiro has become. I never really paid him much mind but hes becoming a fave of mine. I fucking love that he's openly calling out the administration for who they are and what they are doing.
Unlike djt, RDN can tell the difference between show biz and real life.
Still blames vaccines for his kid's autism though....
He hates Nazis, we can work on the other stuff once the fire has been put out.
That said, you should rank the opinion of actors about as high as an average Facebook bot post.
Oh absolutely.
Was just pointing out that just because he's right on this doesn't means any of his other opinions worth listening to, or that he's a good person.
I think Trump has a few gerbels...
Nice. Good on De Niro. More famous people need to be speaking out
Fuck no. Stop listening to actors. DeNiro loves RFK JR and is a rabid antivaxer. He wants to blame vaccines for autism in his son who he had in his 60s and he's still having kids in his 80s.
Absolutely fucking not. May I remind you that famous people sticking their unqualified noses into politics is where Trump came from?!
Who needs to speaking out are mayors, legislators, judges, heads of big businesses and governmental agencies, heads of unions, etc.
I get it, you see a person on your screen saying something you agree with, and they have a face that you recognize from other times you've seen them on a screen. So you automatically assume they must be worth listening to. They aren't. They are famous for being actors. That's it. They aren't politically savvy, or have some deep insight into the interworkings of our governmental system. Getting political talking points from them is like asking the guy behind the deli counter for medical advice.
More people that have fame or platform should be speaking out to oppose this coup. I stand by my words 100%
Agreed. The only thing that matters about what anyone says, no matter who it is, is whether the statement is true.
If we discourage anyone from sharing the truth at any time, in any place, then we are only hurting our cause.
Plus being famous is like having a megaphone. Rejecting De Niro’s help here is like bringing a strongly-worded letter to a megaphone fight.
Where are all the rich and famous people telling me what to think?
I hate the Nazis as much as the next guy, but comparing this bald psycho-bizarro creep-ball Stephen Miller to Goebbels is giving too much credit to Stephen Miller. He's a properly talentless loser who happens to have any sort of importance by riding the coat-tails of the orange utan, while Goebbels actually had charisma and talent for propaganda.
This is long but well worth a watch if you want to know everything there is to know about baldie-Stevie:
Stephen Miller:
Benito Mussolini:
the ass is a total gobbler.
I idon't think he's talking about the quality of stephen miller's naziying, he's saying that's his role and goals. He should be called out by everyone as a nazi trying to build a nazi state.
all of the highest nazis were incompetent psychos… their only qualification was loyalty.
the nazis achieved amazing things because they commanded the state of germany… the actual heads were the biggest losers ever.
Yup. Some of them seriously believed in the occult.
C-plus Santa Monica fascist Stephen Miller
I’ve always loved De Niro. His performance in Raging Bull completely blew me away when I first saw it. All of his contributions with Scorsese have been excellent though. I’m glad to know he’s got the right idea with politics, I hate seeing celebrities I like turn out to be MAGAts.
The one that disappointed me the most when I found out is Clint Eastwood: he's quite the intolerant piece of shit Republican, and that predates Trump and even Dubya. I like his acting, but the man is despicable and has always been.
Who cares. Do you care about the political opinions of your plumber? No, you just care that the shit goes down when you flush.
People think they know someone by watching them act, then for some reason, they listen to them about opinions when most actors are incredibly poorly educated because they learned in their teens they could just get away with how they look.
Who cares. Do you care about the political opinions of your plumber? No, you just care that the shit goes down when you flush.
Normally I don't care. But with MAGA, it's different: if I found out he's a MAGAt, I'll call someone else. I don't give my business to fascists, fascist sympathizers or morons who are too dumb not to vote fascist. I can't stand fascists and I can't stand those who enable them.
Having said that, Eastwood isn't MAGA. He's just a slightly nauseating person. That won't prevent me from enjoying the movies he played in.
Do you care about the political opinions of your plumber?
Actually? Yeah, had an issue last winter. Guy started chatting anti-immigrant shite, and I kicked him the fuck out my house.
That’s too bad, I’ve always really liked him. The Dollars trilogy are some of the best westerns ever made, with The Good the Bad and the Ugly being in my top five movies of all time.
I must be the only person who thought Raging Bull was just OK.
Nope, there's at least two of us, and if my internet education has taught me anything...we can extrapolate that to dozens!
Depending on how you feel about vaccines, I may have bad news for you.