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[–] TheReturnOfPEB@reddthat.com 246 points 1 week ago (1 children)

you, too, can die at the hands of AI and become forever enshrined as algorithmic data to help improve Tesla's subscription services sales to the very wealthy and hostile

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[–] etherphon@piefed.world 139 points 1 week ago (5 children)

Since it seems to be unsafe at any speed, why not.

[–] goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org 49 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Because now it can hurt others going even faster

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[–] MummysLittleBloodSlut@lemmy.blahaj.zone 101 points 1 week ago (11 children)

When a self driving car breaks the law, the CEO should get the demerit points on their own licence, and if they lose their licence, the cars can't drive anymore.

[–] drspawndisaster@sh.itjust.works 35 points 1 week ago (2 children)

That would be funny but better yet, the entire line of cars gets the feature deleted from them and customers are reimbursed the entire value of the car plus interest in exchange for having risked their lives testing an unstable and dangerous vehicle.

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[–] TomMasz@lemmy.world 93 points 1 week ago (22 children)

Just because Elon is above the law doesn’t mean you are, even if you’re in a Tesla. Good luck.

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 74 points 1 week ago (6 children)

Even if you’re just minding your business when a sleeping pilled-out middle manager from Subway corporate plows into your 98 Corolla in their Tesla at 100 mph leaving your family without a father and source of income because a billionaire nazi who's constantly off his nut on ketamine decided rules are stupid and don’t apply to him and the entire societal structure designed to prevent this from happening has been hollowed out by incompetent bigots who absolutely rate high on the sociopath scale because nazi media has ensnared 51% of the population and now you dead.

[–] other_cat@piefed.zip 32 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I agree with you but may I offer you a comma in these trying times?

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[–] thesohoriots@lemmy.world 75 points 1 week ago

which comes with higher speeds and more frequent lane changes

Go kiss a concrete pillar, ya duds

[–] firewyre@lemmy.world 69 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Why do we continue to allow this company to exist and break the law?

[–] Jeremyward@lemmy.world 34 points 1 week ago
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[–] kureta@lemmy.ml 64 points 1 week ago

They finally did it. They automated crime 👍

[–] PalmTreeIsBestTree@lemmy.world 50 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Adaptive cruise control is good enough for most people and has been a proven technology for 20+ years. FSD is just downright dangerous.

[–] humorlessrepost@lemmy.world 16 points 1 week ago (6 children)

I like my car’s version that’s just adaptive cruise control combined with using lidar maps of major roads to do lane-centering. I can go on a road trip and not touch the gas, break, or steering wheel for hours, but I have to drive it myself through residential neighborhoods.

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[–] BombOmOm@lemmy.world 37 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (16 children)

"that breaks speed limits" can be ok.

I have seen a number of US interstates posted at 55mph, when traffic moves at 70-80mph. Being stuck at 55mph on those interstates is dangerous.

[–] blitzen@lemmy.ca 54 points 1 week ago

The fact that this FSD mode comes with “more frequent lane changes” means it isn’t just keeping up with traffic. It’s designed to go faster than traffic. Stop making herr Elon’s points for him.

[–] TheFogan@programming.dev 22 points 1 week ago (36 children)

I do aknowledge that's always going to be the problem when we have the human + AI driver combinations.

Safest hypothetical is 100% AIs that always follow the same rules... next safest is humans that break the rules, but in a context aware situation (IE everyone going 70 in a 55, is safer than 1 car going 55 and all other cars going 70).

Real danger though is if the AI doesn't make good judgement calls when doing so. IE rather than deciding based on how fast other cars are going, it's primary determination is whether the user says they are in a hurry, leading it to sometimes be the one car going 55, but if the person is in a hurry it may be the only car going 70 on a road everyone else is going 55.

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[–] GenosseFlosse@feddit.org 35 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Remember when Elon said how self driving would make roads safer?

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[–] AtariDump@lemmy.world 31 points 1 week ago (2 children)

So there’s finally a “New Jersey” mode.

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[–] Marshezezz@lemmy.blahaj.zone 26 points 1 week ago (5 children)

And all the innocent people that get splattered in the process will just be chimps shot into space

[–] altphoto@lemmy.today 19 points 1 week ago (4 children)

They didn't pay for the car, so why do they get a say right?

Sarcasm.

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[–] mhague@lemmy.world 26 points 1 week ago (7 children)

Need jammers to confuse and break Teslas. They're weapons designed to break laws and protect occupants at the expense of bystanders. Can't be mad if a bystander redirects your Tesla into a ditch.

[–] dogs0n@sh.itjust.works 18 points 1 week ago (1 children)

protect occupants

It doesn't even do that. You crash a tesla and start a fire, it will glady lock you in the car.

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states just need to ban teslas from public road

[–] TwinTitans@lemmy.world 24 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Next will be teslas without airbags. Because why not.

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[–] greasewizard@slrpnk.net 24 points 1 week ago

I can't wait to get paralyzed by a cybertruck veering in to me at the highway

[–] SirEDCaLot@lemmy.today 22 points 1 week ago (9 children)

I drive a Tesla. I live in Connecticut, speed limits are set very low and are ignored by just about everybody Including police, as long as you're not driving recklessly.

The problem with the latest FSD versions is they take precise speed control out of the driver's hands. In previous versions, you could manually set a maximum speed. Now you cannot, you only pick one of these driving profiles.

So for example if I'm driving on a 55 mph highway, and all the other cars are doing 75 mph, I have to pick the 'Hurry' profile which also hangs out in the left lane and makes a lot of lane changes and faster acceleration/braking. I would much rather drive standard style but with higher speed, but that isn't an option.

[–] Mangoholic@lemmy.ml 24 points 1 week ago

Or... you could just drive yourself.

[–] Rekorse@sh.itjust.works 24 points 1 week ago (21 children)

Why use FSD though if you would still need to pay attention and be ready to take over the car? I understand cruise control to a degree but the other stuff I dont see how its helpful to rely on a computer that can malfunction at any moment.

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[–] pineapplelover@lemmy.dbzer0.com 19 points 1 week ago

I got a tesla and I don't fucking trust that shit to not slam me in to a barrier

[–] Anarki_@lemmy.blahaj.zone 16 points 1 week ago (9 children)

Spyware on wheels won't let me break the law

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[–] RoidingOldMan@lemmy.world 22 points 1 week ago (1 children)

"Hurry mode" lol. I'm pretty sure every driving instruction manual ever made says something like "don't drive like you're in a hurry."

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 32 points 1 week ago

This is the guy who decided traffic rules are dumb.

[–] Fedizen@lemmy.world 18 points 1 week ago (6 children)

Intentionally breaking laws sounds like something that should be prosecuted.

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[–] Teal@piefed.zip 17 points 1 week ago (2 children)

With the exception of not being low cost items, Tesla blended with a little SpaceX could become Spacers Choice from The Outer Worlds.

"At Spacer's Choice, we cut corners so you don't have to”.

"It's not the best choice, it's Spacer's Choice”.

“Taste the freedom”.

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