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[–] MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca 19 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I miss cycling. I live in the middle of goddamned nowhere, so driving in mandatory to get anywhere relevant. I hate that this is the case, but there's just about fuck all I can do about it.

I will comment that I take issue with bikes being "cheap". If you ride a bike even remotely seriously, your bike is not cheap..... It might not be expensive, but you quickly realize why cheap bikes are cheap.

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[–] TigerAce@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 points 1 day ago

I live in Utrecht, The Netherlands. I can't park anywhere, my bike will be removed if not stalled in a bike parking spot. I do need insurance, my bike was 4k. There are bike traffic jams sometimes. The rest is all true. No parking fees, no road tax, etc. Just a bit wet sometimes. But my city has one of the best, if not the best bike infrastructure in the world. It's stupid it's not standard everywhere.

[–] HerbSolo@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

That's exactly how I arrived at this theory. Went on a particularly nice bike ride last summer and suddenly remembered that feeling of freedom I got from owning my first bike.

i grew up in Barcelona with a bike.

never in my life I've felt that sense of freedom.

even with a car. not even close

[–] AntEater@discuss.tchncs.de 14 points 1 day ago

"Equipped with this tool, man outstrips the efficiency of not only all machines but all other animals as well."

Ivan Illich on the bicycle. Energy & Equity

[–] PrettyFlyForAFatGuy@feddit.uk 6 points 1 day ago (6 children)

some pay lots of money to get someone to get their bums sore.

so another bonus

[–] GissaMittJobb@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 day ago

With an appropriate seat, this is not a problem, even in regular clothes. For longer rides, bicycle shorts are recommended, which are padded to avoid saddle discomfort.

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[–] HerbSolo@lemmy.world 21 points 2 days ago (8 children)

It's the symbol of freedom because kids in north America are locked up until they start to drive. Since you can't walk or cycle without risking your life, parents have to drive their kids everywhere until they are old enough to drive. This then is perceived as liberation.

Of course car centric infrastructure is the reason you need to be driven in order to be safe. It's the product of decade long lobbying by the car industry.

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[–] PeacefulForest@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

So many thoughts on this from an American perspective:

  1. Bikes as a standard in all cities and towns, make it walkable and bike-able, I believe this is possible and will benefit everyone.
  2. High-speed rail for those bigger gaps. Period.
  3. Cars for those who still find it necessary or prefer rural lifestyle.

…easy as 1,2,3!

[–] Fridgeratr@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 day ago

Car go fast

[–] AnimalsDream@slrpnk.net 52 points 2 days ago (14 children)

So for people criticising with rain, wind, snow, and groceries - none of these are nearly the issues you think they are, and there are a wide variety of bike configurations and gear that address these challenges.

The real issue is having to share the road with cars. I've just had too many close calls, and the growth of self-driving vehicles makes me more nervous to be on the road than ever.

Because of cars I hate being on the road whether in a car or on a bike, and every car that passes by automatically makes me tense up these days. I hope a new Carrington event makes all of them useless.

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[–] bridgeenjoyer@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 day ago (6 children)

You guys have zero understanding of America.

The only way this will even get started is if there's a push for motorcycles over cars. Thats a good middle ground.

People in every city between LA and New York will laugh at you for trying to use a bike for daily activities. Shit is just too far apart. Which is fine with me, I dont like neighbors, im loud and dont like people watching me in my yard. Probably autistic.

[–] PeacefulForest@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Mmk but it sounds like you prefer a more rural, removed from city kind of lifestyle, so yeah it would make sense to still have cars in those situations. But more dense areas like cities and towns bikes still absolutely makes sense, adding to consideration trains.

People in every city between LA and New York would greatly benefit from better public facing transit, and would laugh at the idea everyone is going to begin riding around on motorcycles.

[–] bridgeenjoyer@sh.itjust.works 1 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

I agree.

However I cant think of a single person in my life who would choose public transit even if it was available more. Im sorry but the ugly truth is, it's dirty, smells, loud, and the people on it are often on drugs (notice im not saying we need to deport and kill homeless people, some people think im saying this but I am just speaking from experience here). Public transport is not the utopia people think it is. Unless you have security and 24/7 cleaning, humans will ruin it (like everything).

[–] PeacefulForest@lemmy.world 1 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

This tells me you haven’t been to Europe

[–] bridgeenjoyer@sh.itjust.works 1 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Noy yet! Im sure its much better there. There's really no hope for American public transport. Too many assholes.

[–] PeacefulForest@lemmy.world 1 points 11 hours ago

Well I haven’t given up hope

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[–] _AutumnMoon_@lemmy.blahaj.zone 17 points 2 days ago (1 children)
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[–] DrSleepless@lemmy.world 65 points 2 days ago (4 children)

Plus, as we’ve seen, it is much easier to escape the secret police on a bike

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