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UPDATE: To everyone who suggested YUNO, thank you so much. This seems like it is about to make my journey much easier. It is basically almost exactly what I was looking for, but I was unaware that it existed.
Thank you ALL for your suggestions, actually. It's a bit overwhelming for an almost complete noobie but I an going to look into all of the suggestions in time. I just saw that there were several mentions of YUNO so I decided to make that one of the first things I investigated.

So, about two months ago, I had a very eye opening experience. As the result of a single misconfigured security setting on my Android, I was locked out of my Google Account on my phone AND all of my PCs. I had no access whatsoever to Google, or any of the literally hundreds of services that I get through Google.

This is when I realized that I relied entirely on Google/Android because those two days were actually very difficult, being cut off from media, services, passwords, everything, from the past almost twenty years of my life, could be taken away from me in an instant. The decades of my life that were locked away in my Google Account included hundreds of thousands of pictures, almost a hundred thousand audio tracks, several hundred books, several hundred apps, thousands of videos, etc. ad infinitum. Unfortunately, very little of this material was backed up at that point. That is my fault. Also, the misconfigured security setting was my fault as well.

The amount of data, media, memories, services, etc. that would have been lost is actually endless and it would have affected my life in several ridiculously negative ways.

Luckily, in the end, I was able to get my access back and then basically immediately grabbed all of the several terabytes of information and media of mine that they had, and that I was almost locked out of. I have it all in my house now on a drive in my computer, with a backup made on another disconnected disk.

I then decided that no corporation was ever going to have such an insanely high level of influence on and control over my entire life and my media ever again. That experience was actually very scary.

I've been trying to get into SelfHosting, but am finding it quite daunting and difficult.

There is a LOT of stuff that I have to learn, and I am mostly unsure of where to even begin. I know basically nothing about networking.

I need to learn the very basic stuff and work my way up from there, but everything that I've seen on the Internet assumes that the reader already has a basic to intermediate understanding of networking and the subjects that surround it. I do not, but I am going to learn.

I just need someone to show me where to start.

Thanks in advance for any assistance!

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[–] Nibodhika@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

While YUNO is a great way to get started, I strongly encourage you to understand basic concepts, like docker, and maybe try to run something outside of it for fun. While not even remotely the same thing since YUNO is just the OS and "app store", you would be very similarly tied to that ecosystem the same way you are to Google now. Not to mean that YUNO would have any control over your stuff, but you would be dependent on them for what you can self host.

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[–] subignition@fedia.io 3 points 1 month ago

In addition to what another poster said about getting an off-site backup hard drive, I would recommend looking into setting up a raid array for data redundancy with your online storage. You don't want one hard drive failure to make all of your data inaccessible.

[–] uranibaba@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Install Virtualbox (or some software to handle virtual machines).
Install Debian (or some other OS of your choice, I won't judge if you prefer Windows).
Update your OS (apt update && apt upgrade -y on Debian).
Take a snapshot of your VM's current state after updating. Saves a lot of time if you mess up or want a clean slate.

Now you decide on what you want. Do you want to install n8n or Node-RED for automation? Do you want to use Immich for pictures? Paperless to save papers in a digital format? Audiobookshelf to listen on your books or podcasts? Jellyfin to stream your media? Set up a Minecraft or Factorio server?

Once you have decided on what you want to do, try to do it in your virtual machine.
Once you understand how to set it up and configure it to your liking, decide on how you want to host it. I took an office computer, added a few HDDs and replaced the case with a bigger one and it's now my home server, but any old laptop will do. Just make sure to take backups.

I used to have a Dell R710 and a virtual machine for each service I hosted, but I have moved to docker because it as simple as taking the often provided compose file, tweaking it a bit (where to store data etc) and running it with docker compose up -d.

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[–] lpryszcz@genomic.social 3 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Hi @MTZ , #selfhosting could be a move in the right direction for you. I started managing my own servers over 10 years ago, locally, from my home, later VPS and finally again from my home. Eventually I moved toward @yunohost - it simplifies a lot of things! I documented some my experiences at https://wasi.ovh/
Start small: setup file/photo sync (@nextcloud), calendars and contacts and gradually start adding data from old backups once you feel comfortable.
Have fun and good luck :)

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[–] tillmanreuter@ecoevo.social 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

@MTZ saving this for later! I aim to go the same path soon :)

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[–] 4k93n2@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

if it seems daunting, which it is!, maybe it would be a good piont to ask yourself if you really need to run a server and these self hosted web apps in the first place. i did for about 10 years but i realised at some point i didnt need half of it.

if youre planning on having multiple users or want to share one of the services (like real time editing of files or passwords etc) then thats where self hosted stuff makes sense to me, but if not then syncthing can do a lot without needing any complicated setup

keepass is a good example. or note taking apps like jopin or obsidian where the data is store in plain text and where you can choose where the data is stored works great with syncthing

for about a year before i did any self hosted stuff i was running only syncthing on my laptop and phone without any server so its do-able and you can get started right now and worry about getting a server later.

tailscale is a huge help as well and is very easy to setup. say you repurpose an old laptop as a server for now and install whatever services on it, jellyfin for example, you will only be able to access that when you are on your home network but not when you are away, and thats where tailscale comes in. as long as its installed on each device you should be able to connect to your apps/services from anywhere.

basically you can start small and then over the coming months and years as you learn more you will get more confident about moving onto more complicated setups

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[–] mushroommunk@lemmy.today 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

That econdary drive I highly recommend you find a way to move that out of your house. For me I have a friend 8 hours away, we swap drives on occasion to keep each other's backups in case of flood/fire/toddler or whatever other force of nature to save ourselves cloud backup costs

[–] MTZ@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

That's a great idea. I've had a safety deposit box for years. I can just store it in there!

[–] tburkhol@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

Safe deposit box is exactly the right size to hold a 3.5" HDD. Or several. I keep a backup Yubikey there too, because I love the physical token 2FA, but I'm pretty sure I'm going to lose it.

[–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

I think the very first step to building resiliency is to sign up for Proton's cloud services. That will give you access to mail, both from Gmail via forwarding and a new inbox with a separate address. You'd also get a password manager and cloud storage. From there you can start self-hosting alternatives. Probably start with Immich as Google Photos is a big deal and it takes a ton of storage. Proton is a Swiss non-profit so the probability for enshitification is not nearly as high as with Google.

As soon as you have redundant storage, do a Google Takeout and download a full archive of your stuff. This feature may not be there for long given the current corporate climate.

[–] MTZ@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

Thanks, I will certainly look into this after I get some sort of basic understanding of the concepts at play.

[–] SidewaysHighways@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

get your password situation squared away! every time i spin something new up i am grateful to have a pw manager to keep it all unique and maximum character limit

don't even have to memorize the user of a lot of em

[–] MTZ@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

That's the only thing that I do have taken care of! I basically immediately grabbed them out of Chrome and put them in KeePassXC on my PCs and KeePassDX for my Android.

Baby steps!

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[–] oeuf@slrpnk.net 2 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Check out YUNOhost - it's pre-configured for you and designed for beginners. Mine's been running for about three years on a VPS with no problems and I had no previous experience with self-hosting.

Definitely keep your files backed up locally though. No server is invincible.

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[–] FreedomAdvocate@lemmy.net.au 2 points 1 month ago

What exactly do you want to do? Just have storage that you upload all your media to, which is also backed up somewhere else?

[–] ubergeek@lemmy.today 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Instead of self hosting, why not try better offerings?

Most anything you probably use Google for, you can do with a disroot account. Riseup is a great group, with many similar services (not all). The tildeverse also has myriad replacement services.

Just try to support them, financially.

[–] MTZ@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I have no idea what Riseup, Tildeverse, or Disroot are but I will certainly look into it.

[–] ubergeek@lemmy.today 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Tildeverse.org

Disroot.org

Riseup.net

[–] MTZ@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Amazing, thanks for sharing. I understand Riseup and Disroot and the missions of each, but I'm having a bit of trouble with Tildeverse , likely because I am not well versed in *nix operating systems as of yet. I'm going to commence to reading up on all of these!

[–] ubergeek@lemmy.today 2 points 1 month ago

Oh, yeah, I guess I kinda tossed that out there, as they do host a ton of servives. However, its very welcoming as an onboard ramp to learn about *nix stuff. Just ease yourself into that, while exploring Disroot and RiseUp :)

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