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submitted 1 year ago by Lolors17@feddit.de to c/linux@lemmy.ml

I use Fedora 38, it's stable, things just work, and the software is up-to-date.

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[-] tangled_cable@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 1 year ago

Rock stability. Everything works. I run debian oldstable, even bookworm is too much for me at the moment. Yes, seriously. I tried to connect to my work office using azure web client and the keyboard layout was wrong. When I went back to debian bullseye, it worked as expected. By the way, this bug also happens with arch and fedora.

I have installed arch as well because sometimes I just want to play with things. I'm very interested in immutable systems, but NixOs is too difficult for me and I'm afraid I will spend too much time on it.

[-] ChojinDSL@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 1 year ago

Debian Bookworm. On my laptop and all my servers.

I'm a seasoned professional Linux sysadmin, so getting a distro installed has never been a problem for me (thanks to my first proper distro being Gentoo).

In the end, it's the stability and "knowing what to expect", that always makes me come back to Debian.

[-] Fal@yiffit.net 2 points 1 year ago

I don't know how you deal with non rolling releases on your machines you actually use for work. By the end of the lifecycle all the tools are ancient

[-] ChojinDSL@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 1 year ago

ChojinDSL It depends on your use case. In my case I mostly manage bare metal servers running certain services or docker.

For servers I don't want rolling releases. That just means stuff is going to break on a regular basis. In my opinion, Arch Linux is the worst offender here. I don't know if it's gotten better since last I used it. But with Arch Linux the problem was, that you had to keep up with the updates. If you forgot to update some machine in a while, it could happen that you missed some update that changed some critical things, and everything else already moved on, and the only way to fix it was to hunt down the intermediate package version and try to install that manually, or just wipe and reinstall.

As far as "ancient" tools is concerned, it depends on what those tools are. Bugfix and security patches is what I'm most interested in on a server. Just because there is a newer version of software out there with some new features, doesn't mean that I need those features, or that they're relevant.

For the cases where I need something newer, there's docker, flatpak and backports repos, (if not third party repos for certain tools).

[-] Fal@yiffit.net 1 points 1 year ago

For servers I don’t want rolling releases

Yeah I wasn't talking about servers.

[-] InverseParallax@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Workstation:

Used to love gentoo, but it kept breaking on me.

Went Ubuntu until they went stupid, then arch for a while but again, breakage.

Debian works, I have to spend 0 energy on it, and I can layer on different vms and lxc for whatever other distros I want.

Server:

Was freebsd because it was perfect and jails were next level shit but people keep putting out software that was obnoxious to install without docker, so debian as hypervisor/zfs and freebsd for most apps, debian for the obnoxious ones. Perfect system.

[-] merryflag0655@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

I use Fedora 38, it's stable, things just work, and the software is up-to-date.

[-] obot@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Easy installation, just works™, and it's basically a Debian Sid so it's relatively up to date. Siduction!

[-] jerrimu@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Red hat is super well supported and documented, and more importantly for me, has the amd proprietary drivers for my card. I do ai stuff so I really wanted rocm set up nice.

[-] spaghettiwestern@beehaw.org 3 points 1 year ago

After trying dozens of distros the enjoyment of the new faded and I just wanted something that installed with the minimum amount of fuss and was stable as a rock. The distro that has best fit that combination of attributes (at least on my machines) has been Linux Mint.

[-] the16bitgamer@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Using Fedora

What I like: When I plug my laptop into HDMI it remember the audio settings so if I last had the audio go out of the speakers it defaults to that.

[-] mramazingman@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

I started using Kali Linux earlier this year. I’m by no means a hacker but it’s the first version of Linux with a UI that clicked for me. It’s built off of Debian so I’m pretty familiar with its package management and it’s been really easy to get a barebones version running on different computers.

[-] morsebipbip@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

i've been distro-hopping a lot and always come back to linux mint. It's that one distro i can't fuck up when fiddling with things. it just works

[-] wgs@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 1 year ago

Crux user here. I like the port tree system and simple package building recipes. It's also a distro that kept things very simple over the years despite the rise of dbus and systems. Also the mascot.

[-] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago

I use Ubuntu LTS. It's stable, things just work, and it's got 10 years of free support. That's a very long time to not worry about my machines.

[-] Fal@yiffit.net 3 points 1 year ago

I don't get it. You end up with ancient packages and have to install ppas to get modern tools, or write code that can't take advantage of modern tools and have to do workarounds

[-] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

No PPAs, no workarounds. Just Docker, Snap and Flatpak. OS upgrades become trivial. Nothing breaks.

$ sudo docker ps -q | wc -l
17

Currently running 17 containers.

E: If you haven't looked into VS Code's "dev container" feature for software development, you should check it out.

[-] kill_dash_nine@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

This is a similar reason as to why I use Debian as my base operating system and for just about every service I run on my host, the processes are containerized using Docker. It gives me the flexibility to choose the best “operating system” that supports the software I want to run at the release cadence that suits how I want to consume it for a given piece of software, and the base host OS is just that and nothing more. Upgrades to new Debian releases are non-events and I get no surprises with my apps in containers.

I can upgrade the underlying container base operating systems as I need which I choose Alpine, Debian, and Ubuntu based on which fits my needs. Alpine gets updates quickly, Debian is good for core services that I would normally run natively on my host, and Ubuntu hits well for wide support of almost every other service I need. So I get a stable base with the option to go as quickly as I need if I have a need for a newer package. It’s not always about having the newest software, it’s about stability where it counts.

[-] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Exactly. I haven't used PPAs, pinning or backporting for many years now. Docker, Flatpak and Snap take care of nearly all use cases.

[-] amanneedsamaid@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 year ago

Easy support for the newest Linux desktop technologies, like Wayland and Pipewire. I fun Fedora.

[-] Gubb@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

I use EndeavourOS, Gnome on my desktop and KDE on my laptops. I really like the AUR and the integration with yay. Started with Ubuntu about 7 years ago and had always used Debian based distros, moved to Arch when I wanted to learn more about Linux and now I use EndeavourOS as my daily driver.

On my servers I use a mic between Debian 11 and 12

[-] BendyLemmy@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

I was excited when I bought an Amiga 500, and ever since then the main thing I noticed is that the EXCITEMENT of getting a computer was always over-ruled by my ability to exploit it's powers and use it.

So my perspective is that all computers and operating systems SUCK. But some suck less than others...

So using Manjaro KDE, it sucks less because it's very simple and easy for me to install whatever I like - having AUR available, being able to search with pamac to include repos, AUR and Flatpak (even snap if I was that desperate).

KDE also gives you super powers to ~~fuck up~~ modify your desktop experience and shortcuts.

It's been good to me for 6 years now. After going Ubuntu>Mint I was excited to leave Debian and try something else, I never made it to the Redhat camp (always interested to try Fedora) and hopefully will never feel the need.

So yes, what I like MOST is - it mostly just works. And when it fails, the forum is awesome.

[-] Nyanix@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago

While I know it's not the best distro, I don't care to re-image, I left that life behind with Windows.
Manjaro-
I love the fact that I can have "Stable" and "Unstable" kernels installed simultaneously. It's a nice handy way to recover or narrow down if an issue is related to the kernel. They've done an excellent job with the default Grub settings to allow this as well as side-by-siding with Windows if I want (which made transitioning from Windows to Linux easier).

[-] IrritableOcelot@beehaw.org 2 points 1 year ago

What makes you say "I know it's not the best distro"?

[-] Nyanix@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago

Let me preface this with the fact that I still love and am not switching off of Manjaro.
Manjaro's been kind of a contentious distro, it uses more bleeding edge than Debian-based, but opts to hold its own release schedule and repo separate from Arch's which Arch fanboys will swear to the moon and back is just as stable. To their credit, Manjaro's released some bad updates in the past.
It's also had some security issues with SSL certs not getting renewed, however to my knowledge, your computer would default to not making unsecured calls like that, and secondly, ended up fixed by the dev soon enough. What really pissed people off was that the devs decided that instead of updating the cert (which would be a quick and easy process), they would demand that everyone changed the date on their computers to a time prior to the cert's expiry. I didn't run into this issue because I don't update the day of, I usually like to give it a couple extra days anyway just in case of situations like this and because, frankly, I get on to use my computer, not watch updates run. I agree their response was in poor taste, but I also kinda figure that's not exactly out of the norm from Linux devs (ie. Gnome and Linus Torvalds).
Lastly, a lot of people talk about how the AUR handles installs based on Arch versioning, so if you install AUR apps, there's a chance of incompatibility in Manjaro since Manjaro is usually behind Arch a little bit. I can't say that I've had this issue at all, but

  1. You have to specifically enable AUR
  2. When you do, it warns you of this potential incompatibility
  3. If possible, I'd be using something in the official repo or flatpak far sooner than AUR for sake of support, security, and not having to way for AUR to Build

These are valid complaints folks have had, but none that have really been deal-breakers to me, and not worth the trade-off of a more minimal OOB experience. You have the people that are more used to more stable distros that don't like it being "less stable", and you have the Arch folks that don't like that this isn't as minimal and DIY as Arch. Way I see it, I like to game, I don't like having to fix my computer, and it's struck a nice balance for me. I'm sure Garuda or Nobara would treat me well, but I've already customized my environment to suit me, and tbh, distro's aren't the end-all be-all of Linux, would you do with it is - kinda the whole point of its modularity 😊

[-] Frederic@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago

MX Linux AHS because of xfce, it's fast, stable, use a recent kernel, no systemd.

[-] reallychris@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

xubuntu. stable and apps are reasonably up to date. i'll probably switch to mint with the whole snaps thing though. fedora is the one distro i never tried in my distro hopping phase though so...

[-] scorpiosrevenge@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

Been using Linuxmint as daily driver now for 2-3 years. I can do all my remote work needed (Outlook using Prospect Mail, MS Teams, Slack, Zoom, Libre/OnlyOffice).

Also Steam gaming on Linux has vastly improved incl everything that works with Proton. RocketLeague and a few others I always play run perfect within proton, and I've found lot of Linux native A-titles like Tomb Raider, Dying Light,Payday2 and Warhammer that all run awesome and gave kickass graphics running natively.

TIMESHIFT has been a life saver a few times when I was messing with various AMD graphics drivers (kisak) and custom kernel like XanMod. Knock on wood it's been almost a year since any major issues though. But I know I can roll back a day or two (or max, a week) and have everything restored and running within a few hours. It's awesome.

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