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Which scientific, technological, or social achievements are we unlikely to ever complete before artificial general intelligence arrives?

Examples to seed the discussion: fully mapped human brain at synapse-level, reliable molecular nanofabrication, global economic equality, true interstellar travel, or a 100% cure for aging.

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[–] balsoft@lemmy.ml 4 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago)

I feel like the modern civilization (or at least world order) is likely to collapse before we reach AGI. Either due to this:

relevant xkcd

Or due to the impending climate disaster.

Or due to a certain orange person with alleged dementia nuking China.

I don't think humans will go extinct (not for a while, anyways), but scientific progress will be on pause for a while there.

[–] Auli@lemmy.ca 1 points 18 hours ago

Inventing the wheel......

[–] YesButActuallyMaybe@lemmy.ca 1 points 19 hours ago

breaking the brain/blood barrier

[–] 6nk06@sh.itjust.works 2 points 22 hours ago (1 children)
[–] Davy_Jones@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 22 hours ago (2 children)

This is futurism community. Please read before posting.

[–] 6nk06@sh.itjust.works 5 points 22 hours ago (2 children)

All I see is somehow realistic science fiction. AGI is still a bullshit goalpost ever moving. The new AGI according to the OpenAI retarded CEO is "chat bot that can buy groceries," is that what you were referring to?

[–] Auli@lemmy.ca 1 points 18 hours ago

OH they changed it from when we make X billions of dollars we well have AGI

[–] yakko@feddit.uk 2 points 22 hours ago

I think your best bet is to ask the folks over at Numenta what they think it means. They're a lot more convincing than the chat bot bros.

[–] porcoesphino@mander.xyz 1 points 21 hours ago

It doesn't seem to violate guidelines and was a view on the future. Imagine there was some hard reason AGI wasn't possible with silicon. I really can't think of a mechanism but that's still futurism even if it doesn't align with your view of it. It's basically Dune (sure it's fiction and the prequels kind of hinge on AI but the main novels don't and are considered scifi which seems like a reasonable yardstick).

That said, their follow up is pretty aggressive. I can see that killing community. So would their pessimism I guess but I kind of hope this channel isn't only for soft sci-fi discussions as if they're realistic.