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[–] Omegamanthethird@lemmy.world 52 points 2 years ago (2 children)

His comments didn't "surface". They were made openly.

And nothing he said was opposed to Biden. He just said there's a lot more context than people realize and innocents who are being hurt. Biden himself has called for a more tactical approach than what they've done.

This is just the news trying to spice up Democratic politics because it's not as interesting as the Republican politics.

[–] jmcs@discuss.tchncs.de 11 points 2 years ago

If you ignore rhetorical differences then the US, all European countries, Russia, India, and China have basically the same position about the situation - Hamas is a terrorist organization, Israel is right in wanting to get rid of them, but Israel doesn't have the right to murder everyone in Gaza to achieve that, and, even ignoring the moral aspect, trying to do so is even counterproductive for the long term security of not only Israel but the entire region.

But how things are said, and what things are said, influence the public perception of the events and exact positions of public officials, and when it comes to what someone as influential as the president of the US says, this can have a big impact on what happens next.

[–] Melkath@kbin.social 28 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Love how Bernie said it, then Obama said it, but now the narrative is trying to make it look like Obama said it first and is leading the charge.

[–] morphballganon@lemmy.world 26 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I think it's more that a former President carries more headline power than a Senator.

[–] Melkath@kbin.social -3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Why?

Why does Bernies career amount to him giving the correct answer, and then some deeper party goon gets the headlines, usually right before they use the moment to become a complete lobbyist dick sucking asshat?

This is why America is fucked.

[–] Rapidcreek@reddthat.com 11 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Actually it's not wavering as much as a display of Obama's pragmatism. He doesn't have to play with geopolitics the way Biden does, and would admit it.

[–] Rusticus@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago (2 children)

And when he had his chance, he continued a drone program that killed almost 4,000 civilians. His hands are pretty fucking dirty.

[–] PugJesus@kbin.social 18 points 2 years ago

That's double the number of civilians third-party sources claim were killed by drone strikes... from 2004-2020.