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I respect people's right to use apple products, but please stop asserting "privacy", big corps doesn't give a shit.

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[–] orca@orcas.enjoying.yachts 10 points 1 month ago (2 children)

It’s less that Apple cares about privacy, and more that it’s easier for them to control within a walled garden. If you control all of the levers, the rest naturally falls into place. That doesn’t mean it’s better; it’s just different.

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[–] ThunderLegend@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Yeah, I use lineage with microg..and it's been tough.. I had to deal with several government apps in order to start a new job and guess what? None of them work..I had to use my wife's phone to get my new ID.. I'm a teacher and I have to use government apps to deal with student's absences..that Does not work either..basically anything that relys on Brazilian government app to authenticate something is not going to work. I tried to use the website..guess again..it does not work! One can't export an ID from the website..I had been dealing with banking apps without much trouble..but this ID thing is terrible! How come you can only do stuff using an app and not using the website!?

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[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Um…who actually thinks #3? Apple tells you they sell your stuff and makes app devs tell you. They still sell it, mine it, tailor it for ads, all the same stuff as Google…but just not as pervasive.

[–] Limonene@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago

The GrapheneOS people. Everyone in their IRC unironically thinks Iphones are highly secure, in part BECAUSE they are proprietary. But they also don't tolerate any criticism of Google, especially if you criticize Google for being proprietary.

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[–] AlteredEgo@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Maybe China will bring out a cheap, affordable and degoogled phone lol.

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[–] PeriodicallyPedantic@lemmy.ca 10 points 1 month ago (1 children)

How are devs supposed to test their apps on devices before they publish?

[–] DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

They can upload their ID to google, pay $25 USD, and then sign their apps using their own signing key which was pre-approved by Google.

Its the same for apple, but I think their fees are like $99 per year.

There are also reports of Google potentially leaving in a ADB bypass for it.

[–] kadu@scribe.disroot.org 9 points 1 month ago (2 children)

My biggest issue with the alternative phones is I'm not paying a massively inflated price for bad hardware just because it's using free software, sorry. Same goes for Framework laptops. I will tolerate paying a premium, but everything about the device must match the price tag.

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[–] prettybunnys@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 month ago (14 children)

Just use the device mobile security researchers use.

You’re gonna hate it when you discover which one it is.

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[–] MyDarkestTimeline01@ani.social 8 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I'm sorry I'm not buying a Linux phone or similar for the same reason I'm not going to become a mechanic to drive a car. I want to activate my SIM card and go. Out of the box. I don't want to have to know about kernel access side booting in dev mode. People like me are the primary user base for most devices.

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[–] PalmTreeIsBestTree@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I just want smart tube to keep working on my shield

[–] Berlinblades@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago (4 children)

What are the consequences for Lineage OS?

[–] nomadjoanne@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago (2 children)

It won't affect you in any way directly. The issue is it very well may affect what apps are available and regularly updated on Fdroid and other app stores or repos.

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[–] Chivera@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Honestly though what should I switch to. I have a lot of apps that need side loading.

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[–] daggermoon@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago

I wanna run away to live with dogs like Diogenes. I'll live in a basket and piss and shit in the streets. No spyware phone required.

[–] bigwarblers@lemmynsfw.com 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)
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[–] BagOfHeavyStones@piefed.social 6 points 1 month ago

Perhaps there's scope to have a phone be just a dumb 'viewer' and all the processing and apps run on a suitably configured Linux pc or virtual environment at home. The internet in general is getting fast enough that the latency might not be an issue, and it would not need a powerful phone.

Poor example below, controlling an old phone using Rustdesk.

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