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[-] rustyfish@lemmy.world 9 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Queen H1 to F1?

Edit: Iโ€™m still an idiot.

[-] wahming@monyet.cc 5 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Pg2

Edit: Apparently I'm being downvoted by somebody who doesn't understand white starts on row 1

[-] dreadgoat@kbin.social 3 points 9 months ago
[-] wahming@monyet.cc 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Qd3 Bg3 I think, followed by promotion

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[-] jafea7@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago

That's what I would have thought, leaves the King nowhere to go and there's nothing to block/capture the Queen.

[-] wahming@monyet.cc 4 points 9 months ago
[-] jafea7@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago

Doh! My bad, 40+ years since I played.

I'll shut up now ๐Ÿค

[-] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago

Pawn to G2?

[-] SnokenKeekaGuard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Bc6 Rb2 Trying to mate on g2 and defending.

I'm not sure where to go from there, either bg2+ or nf4+

Either case I can't find a forced mate in my head atleast

[-] Bonifratz@feddit.de 5 points 9 months ago

Good start. You don't have to calculate all the way to mate in that line, White gets an overwhelming advantage.

But more interestingly: What do you do after Bc6 Rb1+?

[-] SnokenKeekaGuard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 9 months ago
  1. Bc6 Rb1+

  2. Ke2 Rxh1

  3. Bg2+ Kxg2

  4. Nf4+ Kg1

  5. Ke1 g2

  6. Ne2

[-] Bonifratz@feddit.de 3 points 9 months ago
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[-] wahming@monyet.cc 2 points 9 months ago

Does it work if black declines to take the queen?

[-] Aussiemandeus@aussie.zone 4 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)
  1. Bc6 Rb1+

  2. Ke2 Rxh1

3.Bg2+ Kxg2

4.Nf4+ Kg1

5.Ke1 G2

6.Ne2#

Edit K for knight to N

[-] Aussiemandeus@aussie.zone 4 points 9 months ago

It appears I'm an idiot too

I'm very new to chess annotation and i keep using k for knight and king.

[-] apotheotic@beehaw.org 3 points 9 months ago

I think it's meant to be Ke1 G2 as Ne1 is an illegal move but that's just a notation issue

[-] Aussiemandeus@aussie.zone 2 points 9 months ago

Yeah it was very late i was meant to be asleep not playing chess puzzles knight starts with a k haha

[-] wahming@monyet.cc 2 points 9 months ago

It seems to be open ended if black doesn't take queen, though

[-] Aussiemandeus@aussie.zone 2 points 9 months ago

What's interesting is if black moves to Rf4 and ignores the queen i see how it gets very open ended

[-] Aussiemandeus@aussie.zone 2 points 9 months ago

Bishop moves to g2 checkmate of it doesn't check the king.

If it does then the king walks back towards the rook. Until it takes it or the rook doesn't check the king ending the game

[-] wahming@monyet.cc 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)
[-] Aussiemandeus@aussie.zone 2 points 9 months ago

It gets all very messy if black doesn't take the bate it seems

[-] Bonifratz@feddit.de 2 points 9 months ago

In what position? After 1. Bc6 Rb1+ 2. Ke2 Rb2+ 3. Kd3 Black doesn't have anything but spite checks. And if ...g2, White can now safely go Qc1 with quick checkmate to follow via Qh6+ (since g2 is covered by the bishop).

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[-] Bonifratz@feddit.de 2 points 9 months ago

Nicely done! You solved the main (study) line. There's other lines where Black actually holds out longer, but they're much simpler to calculate.

[-] wahming@monyet.cc 2 points 9 months ago

What happens if black declines the queen? Too lazy to calculate it out at this point

[-] Aussiemandeus@aussie.zone 2 points 9 months ago

Anything it seems. But I'm probably missing a lot

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[-] Dsklnsadog@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 9 months ago

I need the reddit bot to try it online.

[-] wahming@monyet.cc 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Does it involve Ke2, Pg2, Qe1? Ending with Qc1, Qh6

Edit nvm I'm dumb

[-] Bonifratz@feddit.de 4 points 9 months ago

Unfortunately no. After 1. Ke2 g2 2. Qe1 Black has a simple way to win the queen, and after 2. Qc1 Black can at at the very least promote the pawn and there will never be a checkmate for White.

[-] Aussiemandeus@aussie.zone 2 points 9 months ago
[-] Aussiemandeus@aussie.zone 2 points 9 months ago

No that's no good either, then castle comes to check

[-] Aussiemandeus@aussie.zone 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Hang on im still onto it.

New plan

Bc6

Rb1 checking king

Kd2

Rb2 checking King

Kc1

Rook must leave or be taken. Anywhere doesnt matter.

Qg2 checkmate

[-] Bonifratz@feddit.de 3 points 9 months ago

Right, but what about 1. Bc6 Rb1+ 2. Kd2 Rxh1?

[-] Aussiemandeus@aussie.zone 2 points 9 months ago
[-] Squareeyed@aussie.zone 1 points 9 months ago

Bc6, Rb1, Ke2, RxH1, BxH1, Pg2, Nf4, Kg3/h4, Nxg2. That's as far as I've gotten

[-] wahming@monyet.cc 1 points 9 months ago

Once white loses their queen, a mate is impossible

[-] Squareeyed@aussie.zone 2 points 9 months ago

Got a modification on it. I think it works...

Bc6, Rb1, Ke2, Rxh1, Bg2+,Kxg2,Nf4+,Kg1,Ke1,Pg2,Ke2#

? I dunno if my logic is right, but pretty sure that might be it, been fiddling moves for a while...

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[-] Aussiemandeus@aussie.zone 1 points 9 months ago
[-] wahming@monyet.cc 1 points 9 months ago

Given black still has pieces, in this case it probably is

[-] Aussiemandeus@aussie.zone 1 points 9 months ago

Nah i think you have to lose the queen to win

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