Should have done that years ago.
this post was submitted on 19 Sep 2025
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They’d help their case more if anything they did accomplished something other than punishing responsible firearm owners
Being anti-gun consistently looses Democrats so damn much support. There is no reason Dems should be relegated to the cities; dropping this topic and giving gun owners a fig leaf in the form of dropping suppressors from the NFA would go a long way.
Though, that easy fig leaf of making hearing safety equipment more accessible may already be gone as the classist tax stamp for suppressors was just recently removed by Trump (nice win for gun owners there, particularly for poor individuals). Which, may result in this easy win for Democrats ultimately going to Republicans (depending on how ongoing litigation plays out wrt the NFA holding up as a $0 tax vs an illegal registry).
Tax stamp isn't gone, it's just free now. You still have to go through all the legal bullshit to own something that other very very strict countries require for hearing protection and noise pollution.
Dems will continue to shoot themselves in the foot on gun rights because they think that they can talk their way out of the fascism they've helped grow.
Wanna magically win? Drop gun control and tell the rural areas how you're going to help make them wealthy. Watch the votes roll in.
But we're talking to each other on this community...so I'm preaching to the choir.
I wish they would try to be more inclusive by supporting policies that the majority of Americans want, stuff that would make their corporate donors unhappy
I'd support mandatory safety courses and safe storage, but it would have to be on a shall issue basis.
mandatory safety courses
Put this in a life skills class in high school. Just a few class periods of gun safety, gun knowledge, and a practical using BB guns.
The life skills class can also teach filing taxes, credit card interest, mortgages, cooking basic meals, etc.
I question safe storage just because there are so many ways to make a gun useless because it is stored and not accessible when you need it.
When seconds count, one doesn't need to fucking around with a lock.
Ok but more children accidentally shoot themselves than there are home invasion self defense shootings.
That is better mitigated by gun safety classes in school. As this doesn't interfere with the right to defend yourself and simultaneously teaches gun safety/literacy to kids.
The kids are often quite young, are you gonna have these classes in kindergarten?
A basic gun safety class? Why not?
I got one when I was a kid. At that age it's 'don't touch the gun'.
When you get older it's how to touch a gun.
As if "Don't touch that" works, you think the parents of these kids didn't do that?
As if "Don't touch that" works
I've literally seen children try to do something dangerous the second a parent looked away because they were told not to do something because it would really, really hurt them. Multiple times.
you think the parents of these kids didn't do that?
Yeah, there's a fair bit who don't
And those guys are supposed to be trusted to use a firearm responsibly?
There's plenty of ways that can happen. Maybe they are diligent about keeping their guns locked up when not in use, and don't think they'll need to consider telling the kid to not touch guns. Maybe there's a communication issue between the parents, and they each assume the other is giving the kid(s) instructions like that and don't want to repeat.
Not only that, telling the kid "don't touch guns" when they're 3 isn't going to work all of the time, but it will work some of the time. There's no reason to not tell this to kids at school since it costs nothing and can help keep them safe.
And with the direction you're going, I'm going to head this off: having a licensing process requires a registry. I don't trust the current administration to not abuse that kind of information. Plus, there's a decent chance of a leak, resulting in criminals learning which houses have guns in them that they can break in and steal.
When does the liberal part come in?
Today on no shit sherlock