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If you have STEM or mathematics degree you can apply for K Visa
https://www.china-briefing.com/news/chinas-entry-exit-k-visa-rules-2025/
Effective October 1, 2025, China will introduce a new K visa designed specifically for foreign young science and technology talent. This addition reflects a broader policy direction—making it easier for highly educated and skilled individuals from around the world to contribute to China’s innovation ecosystem.
This is exciting. FWIW, 'young' is expected to mean 18-45, but we don't know until they publish in a month.
Accelerate western brain drain 
Nice, looks like I’ll sneak in as a “young“ talent lol
I have no clue how to get one of these opportunities but i think they do. I know people that don't even talk chinese nor are they particularly talented and they have found jobs there. I guess that knowing English is a very valuable skill there.
Let me know when they're accepting untalent. I'm disabled, I don't want to be in the US, but I doubt I can do anything the people or robots there can't do better.
D visa or permanent resident is possible without work or study, all you need is a fixed address, can be house or apartment that you own, getting there is tough though.
Meaning, getting to own something there is tough or what is the tough part?
It's the hardest visa type to get because very strict vetting but worth the wait. My parents got it last month and us kids can just visit Guangzhou anytime now and have place to live. Basically your ID is nearly identical to citizen, but it says resident.
Wow. That's awesome, congratulations!
So, it's hard to get the visa even if you have property? How long did it take to get the visa? Is the property difficult to purchase without being a citizen, other than cost?
You can get an apartment in tier 3 city, it's what Buddha wang did. You need the normal tier visa first to be on their database, then stay in China for sometime before you can buy properties. Currently an apartment or condo is the easiest way to get D visa. For us because that home belonged to our grandparents that left to my dad, it's a tiny home in north of Guangzhou.
Thank you so much! I'll actually look into this.
Sorry for so many questions but in order to buy you have to live there 1 year, right?
I'm planning on going over to the embassy and getting a grasp of what I can do, will let you know when that happens
You have to have a bachelor's degree or higher to get hired, but yes if you have that and can find a job and get hired you can get a visa. The short term play could be getting TEFL certificate and getting English teaching job to move there with stability, then while you are there look around and build connections for a job you prefer. Google China job board for some English language job listings
god I hope so
I'm fucked regardless, no real degree and the 2nd Great Depression on the horizon, plus no family out there or of the such. Plus the lack of Autism Support in China due to cultural differences.
Vietnam hiring?