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[–] Bassman27@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago
[–] Fedegenerate@lemmynsfw.com 6 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

SUVs the jack of no trades and master of fewer. They're such a strange concept, forgo the ease of a hatchback, the space of an estate, the performance of a sports car, the utility of a 4x4 and in return you get to kill more kids when you hit them.

I'm clearly not the target market with my '05 Civic that, because I live fairly rural, I put winter tires on. But, I don't understand what I'm missing. The wealthier around me are all in them, the rest of us are in hatchbacks and estates.

[–] NotJohnSmith@feddit.uk 2 points 1 day ago

I'd been bullied into renting a small SUV as we were 4 friends travelling abroad for a wedding. Thankfully the rental car lady had more sense and seeing all our bags threw a Fiat Tipo estate at us. That thing swallowed bags, very impressed.

We're sweating our 10yr old SUV and then moving to an estate.... as long as my wife agrees :)

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 2 points 2 days ago

A lot of them are basically estates these days. The names have all become mixed up to the point of being effectively meaningless.

[–] waz@feddit.uk 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (3 children)

More sloppy reporting from the guardian, at least proof read the work. Tax £66,610 on an £85,000 vehicle? 3 times as much as the cost in the uk of £3200? I think someone put another 0 on that, and they still managed to publish it.

[–] Denjin@feddit.uk 3 points 2 days ago

I don't think a small typo counts as sloppy reporting

[–] HermitBee@feddit.uk 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I'm not sure what the mistake is? France charge a £50k premium, so £66k tax doesn't sound unreasonable.

It doesn't say that that £66k is 3 times the cost, it says there are 13 countries which have a greater acquisition tax than 3x the UK rate. As far as I can see, it doesn't mention the relative costs between the UK and France.

[–] waz@feddit.uk 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

If it’s mean to be a single digit multiple of the uk tax, at 3k, then it can’t be 66k

[–] HermitBee@feddit.uk 1 points 1 day ago

It's not meant to be a single digit multiple of the UK tax, I don't know where you're getting that from. The things which the article mentions as being single digit multiples are:

In 13 countries, acquisition taxes for such an SUV are more than three times higher than the UK’s

£3,200 in the UK, but the sale would incur taxes of £66,600 in France – driving UK SUV sales to four times the level in France.

And the headline figure is "up to 20 times", which roughly matches the £66k.

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

What's an SUV though because the industry has a lot of cars they call SUVs and quite a lot and don't look remotely like each other.

I have an SUV from 2015 and the Volvo XC90 dwarfs it despite it apparently not been an SUV, so how does that work?

[–] als@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago) (1 children)

Volvo XC90

I searched this and Volvo's page for it calls it a "Large mild hybrid SUV". Here's a Volvo XC90 compared to a BMW X1 from 2011-2015. It would seem that SUVs have been increasing in size ...

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 1 points 19 hours ago

Yeah essentially at this point what I own easy effectively a large car and not an SUV. The term effectively being rendered irrelevant by car manufacturer. At this point it means any vehicle that is not a hatchback.

[–] TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

I doubt it'd raise that much (the article states £1.72bn), as there seems to be an assumption increasing the tax wouldn't lead to a reduction in SUVs, and that everyone would just absorb the cost.

However, I still say go ahead! Even if it only raises a quarter of that, that's still money coming in, and it means fewer SUVs on our roads. That's a win-win.