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[–] metoosalem@feddit.org 69 points 1 week ago (1 children)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diogenes

At the approach of so many people, Diogenes sat up a little and fixed his eyes on Alexander. When the king greeted him and asked if there was anything he wanted, Diogenes replied, "Yes, that you should stand a little out of my sun".

[–] artifex@piefed.social 79 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Alexander mused “if I were not Alexander I would like to be Diogenes”, to which Diogenes allegedly replied “if I were not Diogenes I too would like to be Diogenes”.

[–] AnarchistArtificer@slrpnk.net 16 points 1 week ago

Impressive shitposting game

[–] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 46 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Dude must have been an insufferable ass, though.

[–] PyroNeurosis@lemmy.blahaj.zone 36 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Most everyone we hear about from that period would have been. They were by and large the leisure class, and we have precious little patience for the billionaires now...

[–] Godort@lemmy.ca 58 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

I mean, Diogenes was a raving, unwashed, often naked, homeless man that lived in a big jar in the market eating scraps and drinking from puddles. Not really in the same class of people as the other philosophers.

His whole deal was that luxury was unnecessary for a fulfilling life and chose to abandon it all to prove it.

[–] abbotsbury@lemmy.world 3 points 5 days ago

didn't he also masturbate in public? something something "were my hunger so easily sated by rubbing my belly"

[–] idiomaddict@lemmy.world 21 points 1 week ago (2 children)

He was born rich though, weirdly enough

[–] Zirconium@lemmy.world 17 points 1 week ago

Tech bros being tech bros even in ancient greece

[–] SL3wvmnas@discuss.tchncs.de 11 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Wasn't his wife bringing him food and drink regularly and occasionally go "you know you can come home anytime, right?".

Maybe I'm hallucinating. It's been a long time since I studied Greek history...

[–] yeather@lemmy.ca 17 points 1 week ago (1 children)

He was in exile in Athens, and did not have much money if any while in exile. I don’t remember him ever marrying, but he was definitely not rich when he lived in the jar.

[–] steal_your_face@lemmy.ml 16 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Was curious about this jar because I was imagining a glass jar lol. I looked it up and a few portrayals show him hanging with dogs too

[–] artifex@piefed.social 13 points 1 week ago

One of his nicknames was "the dog" which was supposed to be derogatory, but he took it as a compliment because he thought dogs basically had it figured out - they spend all their time socializing or napping, eat whatever they can scrounge up, and generally seem pretty chill with it all.

[–] NoForwadSlashS@piefed.social 6 points 1 week ago

That makes much more sense than the "ship in a bottle" situation I was imagining

[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago

It ain't easy being based

[–] ShaggySnacks@lemmy.myserv.one 33 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Diogenes took the art of trolling and turned it into a philosophical thought.

[–] Frozengyro@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

The original 4chan troll.

[–] fartographer@lemmy.world 24 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

"3 Shocking Things you can do Publicly With Your Penis"