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[–] RedFrank24@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Absolutely not, that would never happen. Why? Because there's a load of stuff that runs on Windows that is ancient and only exists as legacy software and never receives updates.

If anything, Windows is the last operating system that will have locked bootloaders, because if they do, there's gonna be some bank somewhere in the world suing them because their ancient counting software was originally made for Windows 3.0 back in the day and Microsoft has had to build their entire operating system around making sure that software continues to run.

They might have hardware requirements like the TPM chip, but they're never going to make it so you can only install software approved by them, because they've got over 40 years of software they'd need to approve before they can do that, and they won't.

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[–] bacon_pdp@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago

That is already a thing in ARM laptops

[–] FreedomAdvocate@lemmy.net.au 7 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (11 children)

Microsoft are smart enough to not piss off every giant corporation and destroy their entire business overnight, so you can count on it never being forced by them.

[–] staph@sopuli.xyz 4 points 1 week ago (11 children)

This kind of stuff never happens overnight. It happens slowly, incrementally, and the people are never mad enough at too much sudden change to be motivated enough to do anything. People should feel good about the imposition of boundaries, and it helps that for the average user, the boundaries often result in a better user experience.

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[–] I_Clean_Here@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

And Android phones will get a workaround to fuck over Google, the genie is out of the bottle. This shit will never happen to "all PCs"

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[–] Unlocking_Freedom@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Linux is quite well established now on home pc's and servers to the dismay of Microsoft and Apple. I hated Secureboot , built into UEFI, during startup by verifying the digital signatures of firmware, drivers, and the OS bootloader. Reading into Deep State Mass surveillance helps:

https://www.printernational.co.uk/timmann/history.htm#surveillance

[–] Professorozone@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

Nothing says that Linux could eventually evolve into the same thing or fail to ever really function for the masses.

[–] localhorst@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 week ago

https://youtu.be/HUEvRyemKSg might be relevant.

Turns out some people can predict the future if they pay attention

[–] quick_snail@feddit.nl 5 points 1 week ago (13 children)

You're describing Secure Boot. It happened years ago.

And, btw, the Android thing also doesn't affect anyone without gapps. Chill out.

[–] quick_snail@feddit.nl 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

When I was tasked with buying laptops for a company, I made sure to test Linux compatibility on every machine. If the model didn't support Linux, we didn't buy it.

Most of the devs were windows users, but there were enough devs and sysadmins that preferred Linux that it just made more sense to only buy hardware that supports both windows and Linux. I'm sure a lot of tech companies have a similar policy (it's one reason think pads are so ubiquitous)

Corporate pressure would never allow such lockdown in the market

[–] okamiueru@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago (2 children)

There is no requirement for it, and can be disabled

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[–] NoodlePoint@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Nah, PCs are easier to install anything we want. Corps trying to lock out Linux would be like shooting themselves in the foot.

Phones are what they would like to get a tighter leash on, because it has become a device that nearly everyone buys more than PCs due to them being more usable and cheaper, and thus a bigger revenue channel.

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[–] mrfriki@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I see Apple doing it, not because they are Apple but because they control the whole manufacturing process, so they wouldn’t need to negotiate with third parties. That’s what has happened in the mobile industry. In the PC side of things you would need to sit on a table: the CPU, OS, and probably GPU and MOBO manufacturers to negotiate, and knowing how greedy they all are, I don’t see it happening anytime soon. But hey, anything is possible in this dystopian society we live in.

[–] xePBMg9@lemmynsfw.com 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I'm not an expert. But microsoft controls secure boot signing, right?

Microsoft is also involved in setting standards and influences manufacturers. I feel like the future where secure boot is the only option and were Microsoft holds the keys is likely.

Politicians and decision makers are not gonna save us. They like it when companies say it's for security and they can slap on "it's for the children".

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