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[–] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 180 points 1 week ago (17 children)

So why does everyone keep referring to Bluesky as decentralized or even comparable to the fediverse

Bluesky is the newest iteration of privately owned and controlled social media

[–] humanoidchaos@lemmy.cif.su 4 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (3 children)

It's where the useful idiots are being herded. They are using it because it's "not twitter" and other people are influencing them. They don't care about decentralization.

[–] knexcar@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago

Why should they care about decentralization anyway? Isn’t number of users and ease of content discovery far more important?

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[–] supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz 95 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (10 children)

Because silicon valley thinks it can define reality however it wants and keep telling us not to believe our lying eyes.

Weirdly this seems to work better on techy people who don't like thinking about politics but understand the technical details of this extremely well than it does on normie progressives because progressives just see the obvious predatory reality and don't get distracted in minutiae connected to very obviously empty promises.

The tech press does not ever talk to progressives though...

[–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 4 points 6 days ago (1 children)

this seems to work better on techy people who don't like thinking about politics but understand the technical details

Not weird at all; this was the case with cryptocurrency too. Otherwise qualified and intelligent people would invest in centralized scam coins because they had no understanding of economics, just tech.

It's sad but cool that it works the same way with social capital.

[–] supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz 3 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Intelligence and expertise is worth pursuing for the benefit that comes from learning for the sake of learning, but it is true that there is a danger to knowing more and more about a very narrow subject in that it becomes more and more seductive to believe that the thing you are an expert in is a key to understanding everything else and that this gives you a righteous vantage to look down upon the genius of others and judge from afar.

Some of the smartest people there has ever been or likely will ever be throughout history have time and time again completely undermined their potential by falling prey to this delusional drug of a belief.

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[–] tfm@europe.pub 44 points 1 week ago (2 children)

So why does everyone keep referring to Bluesky as decentralized or even comparable to the fediverse

They call it marketing, I call it propaganda.

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[–] roofuskit@lemmy.world 39 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (7 children)

Because, despite being wildly impractical, it's technically built on tech that COULD be decentralized. Only recent a new host launched called Black sky. So it is no longer just one host. But it's been one host for so long it almost doesn't matter because so few people will switch.

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[–] 73QjabParc34Vebq@piefed.blahaj.zone 52 points 1 week ago (1 children)

25% is too high, but at least it's not as embarrassing as 99%

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[–] Kirk@startrek.website 38 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Wait, there are 1600 BlueSky instances to join? Are they counting people using a custom domain name as an entire instance?

[–] tfm@europe.pub 30 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] Kirk@startrek.website 30 points 1 week ago (3 children)

OK so it sounds like there is still just the single BlueSky that is "federated" with a handful of single-user BlueSkies?

[–] Rivalarrival@lemmy.today 42 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (7 children)

Yes. The relevant metric:

99.55% of posts are on a single instance. That is not "federated" in any meaningful sense.

[–] eatham@aussie.zone 1 points 5 days ago

Where is this from?

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[–] froufox@lemmy.blahaj.zone 30 points 1 week ago (7 children)

i'm so tired of these posts. okay, fediverse, you won! you are more decentralized than bluesky. maybe it's time to create real useful and interesting content instead of reveling in your elitism?

[–] GreenShimada@lemmy.world 35 points 1 week ago

But....I came here just for the gloating fediverse content.

What else could there be?

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