Good actually user friendly foss chat app? : opensource

[–] int32@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 6 days ago

I would reccomend XMPP(with OMEMO), for android I reccomend the conversations client, but there are a lot of clients: https://xmpp.org/software/?platform=all-platforms I suggest you choose a client that fully supports OMEMO encryption.

[–] AmanitaCaesarea@slrpnk.net 6 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

SimpleX, best anonymity. Not really what u are asking for in terms of use case. It's a great messenger app, but still needs some refining in their UX. But I still like to mention it. Probably Signal then.

[–] swelter_spark@reddthat.com 2 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Love it. Very easy to use and looks great, IMO.

[–] AmanitaCaesarea@slrpnk.net 2 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Aye but things like same account use isn't quite there yet.

As in, you can connect your phone to a pc and use it from there. But then u can't use it on your phone, while connected with another device.... if i remember correctly.

At one point I had a group chat with my phone, home desktop, and work laptop. Whereas whatsapp u just connect once and go.

It's probaly to secure your privacy and technical stuff under the hood....

It's a great app nonetheless, so I shall always shill it over Signal lol.

[–] swelter_spark@reddthat.com 1 points 2 days ago

That's true. And it doesn't seem like you can connect phone to pc if both are using Tor. I think this is the only downside.

[–] Kirk@startrek.website 10 points 6 days ago

"Chat app" like texting/whatsapp?

Or "chat app" like Discord/Slack?

For the former, Signal is going to be the one your friends and family will actually use. For the latter there isn't anything really approaching the same level yet. Matrix/Element is making a good effort but absolutely not there yet, especially on mobile.

[–] coffee_tacos@mander.xyz 9 points 6 days ago (3 children)

I'm surprised that no one else has said this one yet: Delta Chat

[–] thejevans@lemmy.ml 3 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

I'm a paid contributor to Delta Chat, but I don't feel like I can recommended it until it includes sealed sender and PFS. Signal really changed the game with chat apps. 2.0 looks great, tho! https://delta.chat/en/help#sealedsender

[–] Ulrich@feddit.org 1 points 6 days ago

Also ArcaneChat. I've taken to calling it "chatmail".

[–] bridgeenjoyer@sh.itjust.works 1 points 6 days ago

Is this like briar . ?

[–] tectabyte@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Revolt looks promising, but is more along the lines of Discord. It is less mature than other previously mentioned alternatives. https://revolt.chat/

[–] VoxAliorum@lemmy.ml 2 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

While revolt is currently unable to provide all features Discord has, for chatting it is definitely a viable option and I am happy to see how quickly it develops. I am considering moving once it reaches a higher state of maturity (I use discord mainly for voice and screenshare). However, I feel like Matrix + Element is the perfect answer to the question.

[+] WilliamA@lemmy.ml 2 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

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[–] int32@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 6 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (2 children)

check out https://soatok.blog/2025/01/14/dont-use-session-signal-fork/ and https://soatok.blog/2025/01/20/session-round-2/ . session doesn't even have PFS(perfect forward secrecy), which can be very useful, so if a key is cracked, then only a few messages can be decrypted. EDIT: that was a lot of typos!

[–] blurb@sh.itjust.works 5 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

I would also use Signal instead, but Session's situation is not that bad unless one needs to accommodate the CIA or Mossad as part of their threat model, in which case I think SimpleX would be a better option. This is also in the article you posted:

Edit: I didn't notice that the original commenter had said they "switched from Signal" at first, which is definitely worse.

[–] crash_thepose@lemmy.ml 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Why would simplex be better in that case?

[–] blurb@sh.itjust.works 3 points 6 days ago (1 children)

The lack of PFS and 256bit encryption in Session is a little concerning, and one other advantage of SimpleX is that it has no unique identifiers at all while Session uses random IDs and Signal requires a phone number.

[–] crash_thepose@lemmy.ml 2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I thought signal doesn't require a phone number anymore ?

[–] blurb@sh.itjust.works 4 points 6 days ago

It still does, but they did add a username system so you don't need someone's phone number to contact them.

[–] WilliamA@lemmy.ml 1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Thanks. Yk a secure replacement?

[–] int32@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

I like XMPP, but there's also LXMF(a bit more experimental, only for 'advanced' users) or simply signal or simplex.

[–] WilliamA@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 days ago

Alright, thanks

[–] solrize@lemmy.ml 2 points 6 days ago

I have a self hosted nextcloud that has a web chat feature (Nextcloud Talk). It is pretty easy to use, though it is kind of ugly and slow. I'd prefer to send people to GNU Jami but I've had kind of poor luck with that.

[–] thejevans@lemmy.ml 108 points 1 week ago (8 children)

If you can't get people to switch to Signal, you won't get them to switch to anything else.

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