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They say the carnivore diet can damage your thyroid, but does the science really support that? In this video, I react to an influencer’s claims about thyroid health, hormones, and the carnivore diet, breaking down what’s myth, what’s fact, and what really matters for your metabolism.

summerizerThe summerizer always gets confused by two speakers who disagree on something, basically one doctor is doing low quality myths on carnivore and doctor westman is going.... well, here is what we actually know.

Summary

The video transcript presents a detailed discussion about the relationship between the carnivore diet and thyroid health, with a critical review of claims made by an osteopath influencer who questions the impact of a meat-only diet on thyroid function. Dr. Eric Westman critically analyzes these claims, drawing from clinical experience and scientific literature to explore whether the carnivore diet harms thyroid function or can be beneficial, especially in thyroid patients. He emphasizes the complexity of thyroid diagnosis and function beyond conventional blood tests, challenges the traditional carbohydrate-centered view of thyroid health, and discusses metabolic adaptations to low-carb and carnivore diets. Key points include the nuanced effects of carbohydrate restriction on thyroid hormones, sex hormones, metabolic health, and sleep. While acknowledging potential benefits of the carnivore diet for some individuals, particularly those with autoimmune thyroid disease or combined thyroid and diabetes conditions, Dr. Westman stresses the lack of definitive long-term research and cautions against universal recommendations. He advocates for personalized approaches, symptom monitoring, and a balanced perspective that weighs metabolic changes, blood markers, and patient well-being rather than relying solely on lab test comparisons to a "normal" unhealthy carb-eating population. The video closes with a call for ongoing research and open-mindedness toward dietary interventions in thyroid management.

Highlights

  • 🥩 The carnivore diet is a subset of low-carb/keto diets, focusing on meat and animal products, excluding carbohydrates.
  • 🔬 Carbohydrates are traditionally believed to be essential for thyroid function, but this is challenged by emerging metabolic science.
  • 📉 Low-carb diets reduce T3 thyroid hormone levels and alter hormone conversion, which may mimic patterns seen in chronic illness or stress, but bloodwork may not reflect patient health in the context of a new metabolism.
  • ⚖️ Blood thyroid levels do not always accurately reflect thyroid function at the cellular level or overall health status.
  • 💪 Carnivore diets can improve metabolic health and energy levels

Key Insights

  • 🧬 Thyroid function is multifaceted and cannot be fully assessed by blood tests alone: Dr. Westman highlights that standard thyroid blood tests (TSH, T3, T4) primarily measure circulating hormone levels, which may not accurately represent thyroid hormone activity inside cells. This discrepancy suggests that diagnosis and treatment should consider symptoms and functional markers (e.g., body temperature, energy levels), not just lab values. The "normal range" often reflects an unhealthy carbohydrate-eating population, skewing our understanding of what is truly "normal." This insight calls for a more holistic diagnostic approach in thyroid care.

  • 🔄 Carbohydrate restriction causes adaptive changes in thyroid hormone metabolism: Numerous studies show that very low carbohydrate intake decreases conversion of inactive T4 to active T3 hormone, lowering T3 levels and raising T4 without changing TSH significantly. This pattern resembles the body's response to chronic illness or stress, often interpreted as "low thyroid function." However, these changes may be adaptive rather than pathological, reflecting altered metabolism rather than thyroid damage. This challenges the dogma that carbs are essential for optimal thyroid function and suggests individualized interpretation of lab results in low-carb contexts.

  • 💉 Sex hormone binding globulin (SHBG) increases with low carbohydrate intake, reducing free sex hormone availability: This hormonal shift can decrease free testosterone in men and free estradiol in women, impacting libido, vitality, and overall hormonal balance. The bidirectional relationship between thyroid hormones and sex hormones means that thyroid dysfunction can exacerbate sex hormone issues, and vice versa. This complex interplay underscores the importance of monitoring multiple hormonal axes when evaluating thyroid patients on carnivore or keto diets.

  • 📊 Carnivore diets can improve metabolic markers and energy despite altered thyroid and sex hormone lab values: Dr. Westman and case examples like Dr. Paul Saladino demonstrate that many people experience increased energy, higher basal body temperature, and better metabolic control on carnivore diets—even when thyroid labs show decreased T3 and increased SHBG. This suggests that metabolic adaptation to low carb/carnivore eating might confer health benefits not fully captured by conventional testing, highlighting the limits of relying solely on lab values to judge diet efficacy.

  • ⚖️ Weight loss on carnivore and low-carb diets may appear faster initially due to water loss but results in genuine fat loss long-term: Early rapid weight changes reflect fluid shifts caused by altered insulin and kidney function, which can be misleading. Over extended periods (months to years), fat loss on carnivore diets is on par with other whole food diets. This indicates that carnivore diets are not uniquely superior for weight loss but are a viable option among effective dietary strategies, especially for those with thyroid-related metabolic challenges.

  • 💤 Carnivore and ketogenic diets have been linked anecdotally and in community reports to sleep disturbances ("keto insomnia"), though evidence is limited: Sleep problems during diet transitions may be part of adaptation but could persist in some individuals. Since poor sleep negatively affects thyroid health and overall well-being, this potential downside warrants further research and consideration when recommending carnivore diets, particularly for sensitive thyroid patients.

  • 🔬 There is insufficient high-quality evidence to support long-term use of the carnivore diet for thyroid disease, but short-term use might help certain patients, especially those with autoimmune thyroid conditions or combined thyroid and diabetes: The lack of randomized controlled trials and mechanistic studies means recommendations must be cautious. Anecdotal reports and small case series suggest possible benefits, but clinicians and patients should view carnivore diets as a therapeutic tool rather than a permanent lifestyle for thyroid management until more data is available. This nuanced perspective encourages personalized treatment plans and ongoing monitoring.

Conclusion

Dr. Westman’s review underscores the complexity of thyroid health in the context of dietary interventions like the carnivore diet. While some traditional assumptions about carbohydrate necessity for thyroid function are questioned, the metabolic adaptations induced by low-carb and carnivore diets must be understood in context—blood tests alone are insufficient markers, and symptom assessment remains crucial. The carnivore diet may offer metabolic and symptomatic benefits for some thyroid patients, especially those with autoimmune disease or metabolic comorbidities, but it is not a universal cure or long-term solution. More research is needed to clarify risks and benefits. Ultimately, individualized care, open-mindedness, and a holistic view of metabolism and hormone function are essential for optimizing thyroid health in the era of diverse dietary approaches.

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[–] jet@hackertalks.com 2 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

There is no such thing as an essential carbohydrate. It's curious to see this non-practicing doctor be stuck in the essential carbohydrate model

Just because something is easy to measure doesn't mean its the most important metric